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...a Moloch trap - a game theoretic perspective on the common good eroded as competing individual actors seek to survive and/or flourish It's either amusing or
by joe_the_user 4y ago
...a Moloch trap - a game theoretic perspective on the common good eroded as competing individual actors seek to survive and/or flourish
It's either amusing or annoying that scenes like Effective Altruism may rediscover Karl Marx' analysis of capitalism in a partial, broken form but will never investigate progressive ideas as they stand.
- dymk 4y agoYou really think they’re not aware of Marx?
- elcritch 4y agoWill they also redo the massive horrors relewsed on the world that Marxists did? Wait, FTX seems like a prime example. Capitalism in itself is incomplete, I believe it requires a strong moral principle in a populous to work well. Trying to shoehorn that moral basis into capitalism as Marx did just results in a very destructive system.
- elzbardico 4y agoCapitalism also kills a lot of people, but it has a better UX, as it mostly kills people that are invisible to us.
- elcritch 4y agoSure capitalism kills people, but not nearly the same order of magnitude. The worse cases of unbridled capitlaism killed far less than any one of worse cases of communism where we're talking to the tune of hundreds of millions. Then capitalism helped spawned things like the "green revolution" that prevented mass starvation across the globe since then.
- maeil 4y agoThe scientific consensus is that within a century unbridled capitalism will end up killing an order of magnitude more people than any other system ever did.
- elcritch 4y agoExcept that fossil fuels aren't limited to capitalist countries. Even then accounting future potential deaths to an economic system is a bit meaningless compared to prior concrete and repeated history. Much less there's no way we can accurately predict the death toll of something a century out -- in the 1960-70's it was "obvious" there would be billions dying of starvation. We could crack fusion power in a decade and use direct CO2 capture to reverse CO2 levels to pre-1850's level.
- oceanplexian 4y agoThis argument doesn’t land for me. It’s like saying that Math kills people because Math is used to build bombs. Capitalism is an economic system, not a social system. There are human beings in charge of corporations doing the killing, polluting, and so on. Those individuals are responsible.