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I think its due to Singapore's history with drug use, opium additions which got the country kicked out of Malaysia. https://www.sana.org.sg/history/ https://ww

by knodi 3y ago

I think its due to Singapore's history with drug use, opium additions which got the country kicked out of Malaysia. https://www.sana.org.sg/history/ https://www.sana.org.sg/history/

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Nowhere in your history link does it claim that Malaysia kicked Singapore out of its union because of opium.
refurb 3y ago
No, Singapore got kicked out of Malaysia because Singapore is a Chinese-majority city in a Malaysian majority country and the Malaysian political party saw it as a threat to their power. That plus both countries had very different ideas about how the country should be run.
- graderjs 3y ago
  I like your answers on here. You clearly know about this stuff. What's your view on the drug policies / capital punishment / or just general governance and social condition in SG if you care to give it? :)
  - refurb 3y ago
    The government has a near zero tolerance for drugs (it reminds me of the US government in the 80's). There are very large drug busts every couple of weeks so there is a thriving drug trade, but it's forced underground and the government makes sure it always appears they have it under control. Drug problems are much reduced in Singapore compared to the West, but almost much of it isn't publicly visible either. Singaporean citizens and PRs can be (and are) randomly drug tested when coming back to Singapore and if found guilty can be fined and/or receive a prison sentence. Yes, you can go to prison for flying to Thailand and smoking legal marijuana. As for the death penalty, my guess is Singapore will eventually stop mandatory death penalties. Global pressure and stigma will eventually be too much. Even their neighbor, Malaysia, has stopped all executions since 2018. However, if they end executions, they'll make sure to spin it as their idea and will give no hint that they bowed to international pressure or opinion.
    - graderjs 3y ago
      Thank you! Very interesting :) Wow I had no idea about the drug tests. That to me seems insane in terms of legal jurisdictions and human rights. So what legal chemicals a person imbibes in another jurisdiction, can, if detected in SG, lead to a prison sentence in SG. Wow. In some way, that's like a lack of respect from SG toward the laws of the place where it's legal. Law is not just about punishment, it's also about protection. So basically SG is now like a much shinier, better run Changi prison, where the prisoners are insanely productive in high-impact industries. I guess it makes sense, even the airport is called Changi. This does suck tho, as it is a very nice airport, and everything looks very beautiful. I did not expect this thread to enlighten me as to just how very fucked up Singapore is. Very interesting.
graderjs 3y ago
That's pretty interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks! But even such history doesn't mean a place can't move with the times. Also, I don't think you can blame capitol punishment on this.
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by knodi 3y ago

I think its due to Singapore's history with drug use, opium additions which got the country kicked out of Malaysia. https://www.sana.org.sg/history/ https://www.sana.org.sg/history/

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

Nowhere in your history link does it claim that Malaysia kicked Singapore out of its union because of opium.

refurb 3y ago

No, Singapore got kicked out of Malaysia because Singapore is a Chinese-majority city in a Malaysian majority country and the Malaysian political party saw it as a threat to their power. That plus both countries had very different ideas about how the country should be run.

graderjs 3y ago
I like your answers on here. You clearly know about this stuff. What's your view on the drug policies / capital punishment / or just general governance and social condition in SG if you care to give it? :)
- refurb 3y ago
  The government has a near zero tolerance for drugs (it reminds me of the US government in the 80's). There are very large drug busts every couple of weeks so there is a thriving drug trade, but it's forced underground and the government makes sure it always appears they have it under control. Drug problems are much reduced in Singapore compared to the West, but almost much of it isn't publicly visible either. Singaporean citizens and PRs can be (and are) randomly drug tested when coming back to Singapore and if found guilty can be fined and/or receive a prison sentence. Yes, you can go to prison for flying to Thailand and smoking legal marijuana. As for the death penalty, my guess is Singapore will eventually stop mandatory death penalties. Global pressure and stigma will eventually be too much. Even their neighbor, Malaysia, has stopped all executions since 2018. However, if they end executions, they'll make sure to spin it as their idea and will give no hint that they bowed to international pressure or opinion.
  - graderjs 3y ago
    Thank you! Very interesting :) Wow I had no idea about the drug tests. That to me seems insane in terms of legal jurisdictions and human rights. So what legal chemicals a person imbibes in another jurisdiction, can, if detected in SG, lead to a prison sentence in SG. Wow. In some way, that's like a lack of respect from SG toward the laws of the place where it's legal. Law is not just about punishment, it's also about protection. So basically SG is now like a much shinier, better run Changi prison, where the prisoners are insanely productive in high-impact industries. I guess it makes sense, even the airport is called Changi. This does suck tho, as it is a very nice airport, and everything looks very beautiful. I did not expect this thread to enlighten me as to just how very fucked up Singapore is. Very interesting.

graderjs 3y ago

That's pretty interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks! But even such history doesn't mean a place can't move with the times. Also, I don't think you can blame capitol punishment on this.

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