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> Men are advantaged in every aspect of our society This calls for an obligatory Jordan Peterson video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mgDvTew6TXU https://www.

> Men are advantaged in every aspect of our society This calls for an obligatory Jordan Peterson video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mgDvTew6TXU https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mgDvTew6TXU

foogazi 3y ago
sounds very disingenuous to me Males have dominated all power structures in every society in the history of humankind Why are men doing this to themselves?
- antiquark 3y ago
  > men doing this to themselves So the patriarchy is anti-male?
  - foogazi 3y ago
    Always has been according to JP
  - orwin 3y ago
    Yes, that what's Beauvoir argued for. And if you prefer American and a bit older, that what Emma Goldman basically said, that the power structure of capitalist America (and later the Marxist leninist Russia once she saw what the butcher of Kronstad did) was hierarchical and that to avoid having the bottom revolt against them, the top direct the anger to citizen lower than them. I personally don't think it's on purpose, I think most people lack courage and prefer punching down rather than punching up. Yes the civil rights movement was impeded by politician and some violent white nationalists, but the overt political support was from middle to high class female, and you don't have to read a ton of anarchist / Marxist books to understand why.
    - foogazi 3y ago
      > I think most people lack courage and prefer punching down rather than punching up. I think it’s loss aversion and belonging to the in-group Men control power and also control what little power other men have
- riskneutral 3y ago
  > Males have dominated all power structures in every society in the history of humankind > Why are men doing this to themselves? What you are doing here is using a tiny substrata of hyper-successful men (those who "dominated power structures" as you put it) and using that to represent the entire structure of Western society. There is nothing about that that is vaguely appropriate.
  - foogazi 3y ago
    > and using that to represent the entire structure of Western society Western, Eastern, Northern and Southern - all societies It’s like the prison guard complaining to the prisoner about how badly the king treats the guards

> Men are advantaged in every aspect of our society This calls for an obligatory Jordan Peterson video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mgDvTew6TXU https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mgDvTew6TXU

foogazi 3y ago

sounds very disingenuous to me Males have dominated all power structures in every society in the history of humankind Why are men doing this to themselves?

antiquark 3y ago
> men doing this to themselves So the patriarchy is anti-male?
- foogazi 3y ago
  Always has been according to JP
- orwin 3y ago
  Yes, that what's Beauvoir argued for. And if you prefer American and a bit older, that what Emma Goldman basically said, that the power structure of capitalist America (and later the Marxist leninist Russia once she saw what the butcher of Kronstad did) was hierarchical and that to avoid having the bottom revolt against them, the top direct the anger to citizen lower than them. I personally don't think it's on purpose, I think most people lack courage and prefer punching down rather than punching up. Yes the civil rights movement was impeded by politician and some violent white nationalists, but the overt political support was from middle to high class female, and you don't have to read a ton of anarchist / Marxist books to understand why.
  - foogazi 3y ago
    > I think most people lack courage and prefer punching down rather than punching up. I think it’s loss aversion and belonging to the in-group Men control power and also control what little power other men have
riskneutral 3y ago
> Males have dominated all power structures in every society in the history of humankind > Why are men doing this to themselves? What you are doing here is using a tiny substrata of hyper-successful men (those who "dominated power structures" as you put it) and using that to represent the entire structure of Western society. There is nothing about that that is vaguely appropriate.
- foogazi 3y ago
  > and using that to represent the entire structure of Western society Western, Eastern, Northern and Southern - all societies It’s like the prison guard complaining to the prisoner about how badly the king treats the guards