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I had to look up how humans come in to contact with these substances, and this is what the wikipedia told me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoro
by andrewmutz 3y ago
I had to look up how humans come in to contact with these substances, and this is what the wikipedia told me:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_substances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_subst...
Certain PFASs are no longer manufactured in the United States, as a result of phase-outs including the PFOA Stewardship Program (2010-2015), in which eight major chemical manufacturers agreed to eliminate the use of PFOA and PFOA-related chemicals in their products and as emissions from their facilities.[95] Although PFOA and PFOS are no longer manufactured in the United States, they are still produced internationally and are imported into the US in consumer goods such as carpet, leather and apparel, textiles, paper and packaging, coatings, rubber and plastics.[96]
In 2020, manufacturers and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced an agreement to phase out some types of PFAS which are used in food packaging by 2024.[97]
PFASs are also used by major companies of the cosmetics industry in a wide range of cosmetics, including lipstick, eye liner, mascara, foundation, concealer, lip balm, blush, nail polish and other such products.
- gtop3 3y agoI am really excited by the broadband consumer label the FCC is working on [0]. I think we need to see more government enforced highly-standardized labeling of products and packaging. I'd ideally like to see such labeling be expanded to food packaging, food processing facilities, cosmetics, soaps/detergents, clothing/clothing processing, jewelry, wearable tech, furniture, bedding, tobacco, alcohol, cannabis, vape liquid, vape devices, housing materials and essentially anything that comes into prolonged contact with the human body or is designed to be ingested by the human body. Some of these already have labeling provided, but I find it to be mostly inadequate for the type of information I want to know before consuming. We should have a "inform consumer first" attitude for product ingredients, packaging, and manufacturing conditions. Trade secrets should being a distant second concern with increased liability for undisclosed information. In regard to PFAS and general plastic concerns, I've started limiting my exposure to plastic products. This process started 5+ years ago. It is essentially impossible to eliminate plastic. I am focusing on food packaging, textiles, housing finishes, and computer input devices. Edit: Exact information that would adjust my consuming behavior: "Which pesticides were used in growing this food", "what is the exact type of plastic this bottle is made out of", "was this beverage or it's primary ingredients stored in plastic before being bottled in glass" [0] https://www.fcc.gov/broadbandlabels https://www.fcc.gov/broadbandlabels
- treeman79 3y agoSame government that pushed the food pyramid? Where you’re encouraged to eat lots of grains. Basically the opposite of a healthy diet.
- Swizec 3y agoSame government that pushed nutritional labeling. Where you can even know whether something does or doesn’t include grains.
- PaulHoule 3y agoI lived in Germany for a year around 1999 and one thing I noticed was that, at the time, European food labels were strikingly uninformative compared to US food labels.
- ipaddr 3y agoI've never seen meat get labelled with animal ate antibiotics. The labeling is useful and useless all at once
- Swizec 3y agoDoes imperfect labeling mean we should abolish labeling or push to make it better?
- red-iron-pine 3y agothe libertarian approach: it's not perfect, therefore it shouldn't exist
- irrational 3y agoI've always assumed that if doesn't say there was no antibiotics, then there was.
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- amluto 3y agoThis phaseout may be entirely useless or actively counterproductive, exactly as one might expect when one phases out specific chemicals as opposed to the entire family. Manufacturers replace it with something fairly similar! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GenX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GenX https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8571496/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8571496/ Yes, that's another highly fluorinated compound that may well be worse.
- jxramos 3y agoyah I always wondered about that, all this BPA free stuff always made we ponder "well what replaced the BPA and do we know anything about it?" Seems like it would have served some role and some substitute would have to have been found otherwise it would have been a useless functionless addition to begin with and therefore an extraneous cost.
- nonethewiser 3y agoIt’s exactly like it says. BPA free. Carcinogen free? Who knows!
- red-iron-pine 3y agohey now, I can cut out tumors, I can't cut out endocrine disruptions
- xeromal 3y agoI made the move to using glass, ceramic, metals, and cast iron for most of my daily uses regarding food and beverage.
- simmerup 3y agoSame here. I just wish I could convince my parents too as well. They're still using beat up 20 year old tupperware
- jraby3 3y agoRecently found out they’re in my dental floss (glide). They’re everywhere.
- ars 3y agoNo, they are not. Glide is made from PTFE which is not the same as those described above. It's in a similar category, but not the same.
- elil17 3y agoPTFE is made using using a process that uses PFOA or another, similar fluorosurfactant. There are likely trace amounts of these fluorosurfactants left behind in the PTFE, which might be enough to cause issues.
- tharkun__ 3y agoErr sorry but to quote Wikipedia: Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) is a synthetic fluoropolymer of tetrafluoroethylene that has numerous applications. It is one of the best-known and widely applied PFAS. The commonly known brand name of PTFE-based composition is Teflon Remember Teflon coated pans? And how you are supposed to throw them out if they're scratched?
- ars 3y agoI see that quote, and it's Wikipedia being overly technical. PTFE is not in the same category as the other PFAS. PTFE is missing the reactive tail that makes the other ones so problematic. It's in the same chemical family, yes, but is very different in its properties. > Remember Teflon coated pans? I have plenty of them. > And how you are supposed to throw them out if they're scratched? That's not true now, and has never been true. (Other than perhaps the scratches making your food stick.)
- PaulHoule 3y agoSee https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/dangerous-pfas-chemicals-are-in-your-food-packaging-a3786252074/ https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/dan... fast food wrappers contain PFAS, it could be fast food makes you fat not from the food but from the packaging!
- bandyaboot 3y agoIf pfas from fast food packaging is involved in this, wouldn’t it seem more likely that it’s the fast food that’s making people fat and the pfas is just correlating?
- 29athrowaway 3y agoPizza boxes, tampons, microwave popcorn.