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Both Brain and DeepMind had more researchers than OpenAI and more money too, yet Google couldn't use all that to produce anything. I don't think the merger will
by crop_rotation 4y ago
Both Brain and DeepMind had more researchers than OpenAI and more money too, yet Google couldn't use all that to produce anything. I don't think the merger will be very useful here, since I doubt google has any kind of resource constraint in place. Deepmind was not even making any products, or even any plans. They did lots of flashy stuff like microing blink stalkers in Starcraft but it was always hard to see where would all that lead to.
- creato 4y agoOpenAI’s flagship products are literally named after work done by Google researchers.
- moralestapia 4y agoYes, that even adds more weight to GP's argument which seems to be "they had everything and someone else ate their lunch".
- foooorsyth 4y agoThat’s even more embarrassing for Google. They couldn’t make a product out of their initial innovations.
- hosh 4y agoI think Search was such a strong engineering feat that sold itself as a product, that they never had to develop the product chops that other tech companies had to. I'm also thinking of Waymo, and the disciplined way they went about developing their technology, working with municipalities, first responders, etc. But, there is already a clear-cut product goal (drive better and safer than a human driver), existing legal and regulatory framework, and very visible and high stakes for errors (humans getting injured or killed). It's the kind of conditions that engineering excellence and mediocre product design does very well.
- misnome 4y agoUhm, Alphafold?
- PartiallyTyped 4y agoDM and "Open"AI took two different approaches to AGI, with the former taking a bottom-up first-principles kind of approach, whereas the latter embraced the bitter lesson[1]. I don't know which approach GB took, but it looks likely that it was more of a support role to the core business instead of upsetting it. [1] http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html
- anvuong 4y agoSeem pretty common with Google. They have brilliant and genius researchers and engineers, but they have terrible product managers.