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The pendulum has clearly started to swing back to sexual repression. Society has started to see sexual freedom and expression as grotesque. Now the only questio
by phendrenad2 4y ago
The pendulum has clearly started to swing back to sexual repression. Society has started to see sexual freedom and expression as grotesque. Now the only question is how far it'll swing.
- bequanna 4y agoBy which metric? Broadly, the biggest pushes have been to limit exposure of highly-sexualized content to those 18+.
- rm_-rf_slash 4y agoWe really ought to update Napoleon’s quote about malice and stupidity to something like “never attribute to moral preening that which can be explained by financial incentives”
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- ulfw 4y agoOnly in America, the most puritan developed nation.
- maccolgan 4y ago>Society has started to see sexual freedom and expression as grotesque When has it been not grotesque? It's just that “American” “norms” are actually starting to “progress” to the mean.
- adad95 4y agoI don't think is the case. I think we are even more sexually open was society. I think the issues here is the US money is over and now the big investors are from countries that porn is banned like China and Arabias.
- Gigachad 4y agoI think it’s more likely that hosting sexual content involves having to deal with loads of abusive material which is hard to detect and process, and which requires great haste in dealing with. It’s hard to have an army of dirt cheap outsourced moderators sort out regular porn from revenge porn. If you take too long dealing with regular spam, not much happens. If you take too long dealing with this kind of content, you get cut off from payment providers and advertising.
- AlecSchueler 4y agoThis is the thing entirely. So much of the NSFW content is abusive. The HN crowd is mostly safe from such attacks so this is a real blindspot.
- local_crmdgeon 4y agoThat's why I only use OnlyFans these days. The industry that produces free porn for pornhub etc is incredibly abusive. Disintermediation here removes a lot of scumbags
- AlecSchueler 4y agoProps to you for looking into more ethical means of consumption. It's a real tragedy that the taboo around sex prevents more meaningful discussions in public live about this stuff. Personally I got so sick of it all that I have up pornography completely about 4 years ago. I'm not saying everyone else should follow suit but I count it as the single best thing I ever did for myself, my mental health and my real life relationships.
- snapcaster 4y agoNow just go one step further and cut out the parasocial pathetic relationships with onlyfans creators and you'll be good!
- Der_Einzige 4y agoYes, tech bros are safe from others wanting them for anything outside of their minds.
- AlecSchueler 4y agoIndeed, the rates of revenge porn and AI deepfake targeted towards men is considerably lower than that against women.
- Dylan16807 4y agoI'd be more sympathetic to the abusive/revenge porn argument if these companies didn't keep applying the same rules to drawn images.
- ezekiel68 4y agoThe other repliers have mentioned possibly "why"s. But your "what" stands regardless.
- Mistletoe 4y agoBut the people I know are more sexually free than ever. This seems more about repression and Puritanism in government and investors that doesn’t match the populace.
- UberFly 4y agoThere's plenty of sexual progression online. Imgur's decision has little to do with society as a whole. It's one company wanting to get off the porn train so they look better to potential buyers.
- futureshock 4y agoI think we live in an increasingly neo-victorian age. It's not just sex. It has become toxic to express a wide range of opinions. For example, the systematic deplatforming of conservatives. (I am a liberal, and my need to state that to be taken seriously is further evidence of all this.)
- numpad0 4y agoAgreed. I can also agree to some degree to couple other comments that people are more sexually open than ever, but the "accepted" modes and diversity of thoughts and opinions are reducing quite uncomfortably fast.
- dahwolf 4y agoYour downvotes prove your point.
- adamsmith143 4y agoGenuine question, what does deplatforming conservatives have to do with Victorianism?
- dougmwne 4y agoIt's a narrowing of the Overton window, not any one specific topic being accepted in public discourse.
- adamsmith143 4y agoDespite the fact that the Victorian era was quite conservative? So your point doesn't make a lot of sense to me. We're moving to a neo-victorian(more conservative/prude) era that is also shutting down Conservative speech?
- local_crmdgeon 4y agoIt's not about the content, it's about the restrictions to a dogma
- achenet 4y agoliving in a midsize French city, this has not at all been my experience. Could be due to sampling bias (I'm basing this off of people I know, who are probably not representative of the population as a whole), but most people here seem pretty open sexually.
- theobromananda 4y agoYou can assume that any comment on internet culture is from an American point of view. As a European, I only find a percent of a percent that resonates with my offline world - although the dominance of American internet companies still enforces their culture online.
- Thuggery 4y agoI would say it's more male sexuality (primarily hetero) and female sexuality that is seen as threatening and uncontrolled that is categorized as grotesque. Things like OnlyFans has never been more normal.