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$11,000 EV unveiled by BYD

34 points by hochmartinez 4y ago

cs702 4y ago
A better (non-paywalled link) is: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/other/shanghai-auto-show-crowds-flock-to-byds-seagull/ar-AA1a3MLr https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/other/shanghai-auto-show-cro... BYD seems to be the only EV maker of sufficient scale that could compete with Tesla on unit cost.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull
gigel82 4y ago
What would it take to bring something like this to the US? Is it just not road legal (safety wise) to meet North American standards? I'd pay a 50% (or more) premium to get it here.
- isopede 4y ago
  I recall reading a story last year about a guy who went through this process to import a cheap EV pickup to use around his farm[1]. I believe it cost him about $3k-4k in shipping and fees. 1. https://electrek.co/2022/07/25/electric-mini-truck-how-its-holding-up/ https://electrek.co/2022/07/25/electric-mini-truck-how-its-h...
  - Bimos 4y ago
    The pickup in this link is not legal (neither as automobile like normal cars/pickups nor as non-motor vehicles like bicycles/electric-bicycles) in China, too. But the BYD one is totally legal in China.
- TheAdamist 4y ago
  Not road legal. Youd need the manufacturer to do all that paperwork+engineering. People have imported cheap Chinese evs for farm or questionably legal neighborhood ev usage.
  - chii 4y ago
    > +engineering what sort of extra engineering is required to make it road legal? I assume paperwork is really just certification to prove it meets existing regulations, but if the car requires "extra" engineering, then that's a big problem isnt it?
    - netsharc 4y ago
      The car is probably made to security standards of the markets it's aiming for, and some places (like China) have weaker standards than US/Europe. If BYD planned to sell the model in US/Europe, then they would've engineered it to meet their security standards and just need to do "the paperwork" of submitting a few cars for (crash-)testing to satisfy the authorities.
sourcecodeplz 4y ago
For city use sure, otherwise looks like a death-trap when compared with standard US vehicle sizes and mass...
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  Why would you say "death trap" if its cheap? Do you only get safety unless the car is $100k ? https://nexonev.tatamotors.com/ https://nexonev.tatamotors.com/ Here is $16-17k Indian car with global ncap rating of 5. Same as a Tesla I suppose. https://tiagoev.tatamotors.com/ https://tiagoev.tatamotors.com/ This one is only 10k but has a 4 star rating so what gives?
  - lbotos 4y ago
    Because Americans are driving tanks https://twitter.com/edburmila/status/1254544337855275008 https://twitter.com/edburmila/status/1254544337855275008
    - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
      sure but that doesn't make a non-tank a death trap, does it?
      - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        When everyone drives a tank and you are driving a ricksha, you have a problem.
      - BugsJustFindMe 4y ago
        If you never get in a collision with a tank, no. If you do, yes.
abracadaniel 4y ago
190mi (305km) range for the base price and optional 252mi (405km) is pretty impressive. Reports seem to conflict on whether it is a sodium-ion or LiFePo battery.

34 points by hochmartinez 4y ago

A better (non-paywalled link) is: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/other/shanghai-auto-show-crowds-flock-to-byds-seagull/ar-AA1a3MLr https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/other/shanghai-auto-show-cro... BYD seems to be the only EV maker of sufficient scale that could compete with Tesla on unit cost.

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull

gigel82 4y ago

What would it take to bring something like this to the US? Is it just not road legal (safety wise) to meet North American standards? I'd pay a 50% (or more) premium to get it here.

isopede 4y ago
I recall reading a story last year about a guy who went through this process to import a cheap EV pickup to use around his farm[1]. I believe it cost him about $3k-4k in shipping and fees. 1. https://electrek.co/2022/07/25/electric-mini-truck-how-its-holding-up/ https://electrek.co/2022/07/25/electric-mini-truck-how-its-h...
- Bimos 4y ago
  The pickup in this link is not legal (neither as automobile like normal cars/pickups nor as non-motor vehicles like bicycles/electric-bicycles) in China, too. But the BYD one is totally legal in China.
TheAdamist 4y ago
Not road legal. Youd need the manufacturer to do all that paperwork+engineering. People have imported cheap Chinese evs for farm or questionably legal neighborhood ev usage.
- chii 4y ago
  > +engineering what sort of extra engineering is required to make it road legal? I assume paperwork is really just certification to prove it meets existing regulations, but if the car requires "extra" engineering, then that's a big problem isnt it?
  - netsharc 4y ago
    The car is probably made to security standards of the markets it's aiming for, and some places (like China) have weaker standards than US/Europe. If BYD planned to sell the model in US/Europe, then they would've engineered it to meet their security standards and just need to do "the paperwork" of submitting a few cars for (crash-)testing to satisfy the authorities.

sourcecodeplz 4y ago

For city use sure, otherwise looks like a death-trap when compared with standard US vehicle sizes and mass...

2Gkashmiri 4y ago
Why would you say "death trap" if its cheap? Do you only get safety unless the car is $100k ? https://nexonev.tatamotors.com/ https://nexonev.tatamotors.com/ Here is $16-17k Indian car with global ncap rating of 5. Same as a Tesla I suppose. https://tiagoev.tatamotors.com/ https://tiagoev.tatamotors.com/ This one is only 10k but has a 4 star rating so what gives?
- lbotos 4y ago
  Because Americans are driving tanks https://twitter.com/edburmila/status/1254544337855275008 https://twitter.com/edburmila/status/1254544337855275008
  - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
    sure but that doesn't make a non-tank a death trap, does it?
    - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
      When everyone drives a tank and you are driving a ricksha, you have a problem.
    - BugsJustFindMe 4y ago
      If you never get in a collision with a tank, no. If you do, yes.

abracadaniel 4y ago

190mi (305km) range for the base price and optional 252mi (405km) is pretty impressive. Reports seem to conflict on whether it is a sodium-ion or LiFePo battery.