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Philly cheesesteaks became big in Lahore
- amelius 4y agoIsn't the cow considered a sacred animal there?
- hannofcart 4y agoYou're thinking of India. Lahore is in Pakistan.
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoSomebody tell the folks around here what a Philly Cheesesteak is. I've had anything from a French Dip to a ham-and-cheese sandwich. It's disheartening.
- anonu 4y agoAlso big in Beirut, fwiw. Example: https://www.instagram.com/steakcrush https://www.instagram.com/steakcrush Halal as well.
- jackvalentine 4y agoI thought it might be haram to mix cheese and meat, but apparently that’s just a kosher restriction. Philly Cheesesteaks are perfectly halal.
- TheAdamist 4y agoSalmon cheesesteaks are a thing in phillys african american and Muslim neighborhoods.
- inportb 4y agoYou could probably make it kosher by using dairy-free "American slices."
- illirik 4y agoMost "American Slices" do contain dairy, as it is a USDA requirement for the classification of "pasteurized process cheese product" that there is at least some cheese in the product. I have made some exceptional vegan cheesesteaks with marinated seitan and pumpkin puree + nutritional yeast "cheese" sauce. The key is the bread - if you can head to a local bakery for a proper fresh hoagie roll, the rest will follow. I personally like grilled onions and Bavarian mustard on mine. Fantastic sandwich - just don't put lettuce and tomato on yours!
- maxerickson 4y agoA more charitable interpretation is that the quotes are around "American slices" because the dairy free ones aren't cheese. Dairy free imitations are well available.
- InCityDreams 4y ago>that there is at least some cheese in the product. Good start for cheese.
- throwaway2037 4y agoThis: pumpkin puree + nutritional yeast "cheese" sauce Do you have a recipe to share? That sounds very interesting!
- tedunangst 4y agohttps://www.kosher.com/article/can-i-eat-plant-based-cheese-on-a-burger-or-steak-1246 https://www.kosher.com/article/can-i-eat-plant-based-cheese-...
- pyuser583 4y ago“Kosher” rules have lots of “no mixing” rules that don’t apply to Islam. Ultra Orthodox Jews even follow the rules about not mixing fabrics in clothes. There are even “kosher” fabrics.
- LegitShady 4y agoI mean its in deuteronomy 22:11 explicitly. Orthodox jews are the ones who live by it, but you'd think anyone who believed in the bible would follow outright restrictions like that. This in contrast to not mixing milk and meat, which is an expansion of "do not cook a kid in its mother's milk" from deuteronomy 14:21. If you look at the two it would seem wearing linen and wool together is much worse than mixing milk and meat. why is baffling, but thats religion.
- riffic 4y agoit's certainly a fashion crime
- antibasilisk 4y ago>why is baffling, but thats religion. For any given moral position you can keep asking why forever and never come to a satisfying conclusion unless you actually define what a moral is. Is it just an aesthetic judgement on behavior? Is it a product of the ability to evoke pleasure & pain? Is it simply whatever you desire? Does the term even have any meaning at all?
- codersfocus 4y ago> define what a moral is Morality is a composite of several concepts. (A) You start with pain and pleasure -- the definitions I use for those words cover every living thing that tries to achieve homeostasis, with pleasure being moving towards and pain as moving against. This covers pretty much every living thing, including microbes, plants etc. (B) Sufficiently social creatures create a meta organism (the society.) Virtue and vice are the pleasure and pain of this meta organism, respectively. As an aside, this can clash with (A). Consider the soldier jumping on a grenade to protect comrades (painful-virtuous), or the sexual deviant (pleasurable-vice.) As virtue and vice are a function of a given society at a given time, that is why many say morality is relativistic. (C) Sufficiently intelligent creatures have the ability to mirror neurons; empathy in other words. Apply this ability to (A) to create the rules for the nodes that represent (B.)
- somethoughts 4y agoReminds me of the Tribal People Try channel. Some fun ones: Tribal People Try Spicy Korean Ramen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttRFYZXwddc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttRFYZXwddc Tribal People Discovering Cheesecake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iYQxH2-VM8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iYQxH2-VM8 Tribal People Try McDonald's Breakfast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7oSDvuLjNE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7oSDvuLjNE Edit: Must admit the channel seems real/genuine although might be perhaps a bit exaggerated/click friendly. They interview some of the people near their homes, etc. and it seems pretty honest - Chaudhary Rafique's Home Tour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy9n0y9L7K8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy9n0y9L7K8
- kamaal 4y agoIndian here, a few years back I was in USA for some work. It was Ramadan, so somebody from my extended family stays in Philadelphia, so decided to celebrate Eid with their family. I went to their home a few days earlier. And my uncle drove me around Philly, like around famous tourist attractions etc. When it was end of day he asked me if I wanted to get something special for Iftar(breaking fast). I was like lets have some local delicacies. He takes me to this place where they were selling Philly Cheasesteakes, sold by Pakistanis(because 'halal'). It kind of blew me away when I learned nearly most of the halal PCs sold there were by Pakistanis. I guess the diaspora that returned to their country might have taken the delicacy to Lahore? The Philly Cheasesteak itself was super delicious though. Couldn't stop eating and I went back to that place the next two evenings as well.
- mindcrime 4y agoI always found it interesting that my favorite local philly cheese-steak shop in Durham NC is run by a gentleman from Afghanistan. I always wondered if that was completely random or if there was some special connection at work, but never got around to asking.
- rayiner 4y agoWhat was the place? Worked in Philly a year and I don’t think I ever ran into this. Sounds delicious.
- selimthegrim 4y agoSeconding, I visited the neighborhoods where this ought to be often and am curious.
- kamaal 4y agoI have forgotten where to be honest, I also had ice cream at some famous place which looked ancient. Can't remember the name. But its supposed to be a super old shop going decades back. I do remember where I offered the Eid prayers. It was some mosque in a place called Devon. I guess it was some where around that place. There was also an Eid social meet up in a open ground right after(don't remember the name), but lots of Pakistanis and Indians seem to be present there. And lots of Sub continent snacks like Samosas were served. I also had a Philly Chesesteak in New York in some food truck right at the exit of One World Trade Center building. And I guess that was run by some Arab person. That was delicious too.
- lchengify 4y agoLived in Philly for a few years and my family is from there. Makes sense that the Cheesesteak would be a popular export. Its origins are Italian, and like other Italian foods you can make it anywhere if you get the prep and the ingredients right. It's also heavily customizable and can last a while like pizza. IMO getting the bread right is the hard part, but I imagine a good chef will recognize that quickly. Philly has special bakeries that supply a lot of the steak places (Amorosos, etc). Also I'm sorry but cheese wiz is disgusting. Get Provolone :).
- rdl 4y agoAgree about cheese wiz being gross, but American cheese is fine too. I do like provolone + marinara sauce ("pizza steak"), though. (I've had better steaks in Philly suburbs and NJ than in the city itself, too.)
- JackMorgan 4y agoIt's wild but true, the best steaks are out in the suburbs
- MuffinFlavored 4y agohow often should one eat a philly cheesesteak? i feel like the answer is “almost never” given the high amount of beef + cheese (calories, fat, etc.) typical philly cheesesteak is like… 800-1600 calories from what i can tell and not very much nutritional value. am i being dramatic?
- MiscIdeaMaker99 4y agoAs often as you feel like.
- MuffinFlavored 4y agoIsn't there strong evidence in obesity + heart disease cases that this is a poor decision?
- willcipriano 4y agoPat or Geno?
- Larrikin 4y agoBoth are tourist trap trash. They are the kind of place where you order wiz and think you're getting something good and authentic, but its really something created for tourists that can be sold with cheap ingredients at a marked up price. They are overpriced and only enjoyable if you've only ever had cheesesteaks at places like Subway and other locations that call them "steak and cheese" subs. Its been a while since I lived in Philly, but have visited regularly since graduating college (2012). The best I had when I lived there was Joe's under its previously extremely racist name, followed closely by Jim's. Recently took a friend from out of the country to Philly for her first cheesesteak and although I enjoyed Jim's still, she didn't understand the hype for a cheesesteak, so we avoided them the rest of the week. Took her to Joe's on Torresdale as we were leaving the city (apparently one month before that location closed forever in favor of a more popular area), and she finally understood why it was a famous regional dish. Their cheesesteaks are amazing. Also I'm completely convinced that the internet hype around broccoli rabes is a completely made up SEO infecting real life phenomena. None of my friends from college who grew up in Philly had ever had one when I asked about it and when we made treks to the various "famous" locations, everyone was just mad we didn't spend the gas on getting cheesesteaks instead. The best cheesesteaks in the city are pretty established since the 80s and people have their opinions pretty set in stone so b/vloggers don't have much to write about outside of hyping up something that isn't popular.
- calvinmorrison 4y agoMany years a philadelphian. Provolone and thin sliced ribeye is easy to come by. A good roll is not! I just can't get any good rolls even two hours from Philly Long live the Carangi Roll!
- dukeyukey 4y agoTheres a cheesesteak place here in London run by some Philadelphians, and they said they have to make it from scratch, it's just impossible to get the right bread anywhere in the UK.
- akhayam 4y agoAnyone that’s been to Lahore will attest to how crazy the Lahori nation is about food. You simply can’t wrong with food in that city. Glad Philly Cheesesteak launched a joint there!
- jimmySixDOF 4y agoShinwari BBQ is on another level
- akhayam 4y ago+inf. Now I can’t stop thinking of Zakir Tikka.
- pythonbase 4y agoBut Karachi has the best Biryani :)
- myshpa 4y agoUSA should import indian plant-based food, not the other way around. If India / Asia starts eating as much meat/dairy as Americans/Europeans do, we're @#$%^&*. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?country=USA~IND~OWID_WRL~Europe~Africa~AUS~Asia~North+America~South+America https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?coun...
- rayiner 4y agoYou know Lahore is in Pakistan, right? I’m Pakistan/Bangladesh, we have a rich meat eating cuisine. That includes meat curries for breakfast, which is probably is the winning breakfast worldwide.
- myshpa 4y agoMea culpa :) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?country=USA~IND~OWID_WRL~Europe~Africa~AUS~Asia~North+America~South+America~PAK https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?coun... (updated, Pakistan 20kg/person/year, 5x less people than India)
- selimthegrim 4y agoTangent: For some reason Taheri in Bangladesh refers to a meat and rice dish while in Pakistan it refers exclusively to a vegetable/potato and rice dish. I’ve never been able to figure out why. You would never hear about a “meat taheri” in Pakistan.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agoAnd in my hometown, tahri is a blanket term for turmeric rice that is literally handed out on streets (everyone just waits for a turn, puts up their hands, gets a handful and consumes on spot) for free. Its varieties include additives like chicken or meat but that's about it. Almost always its given as a way of offering to "feed the poor" and anyone around just turns up and is given a handful. Don't know if any other place does something similar. Edit: yeah, plain tahri is just rice cooked with turmeric and garnished with deep fried onions or spring onions. A way to mass feed a lot of people for cheap.
- rurban 4y agoFor context, it didn't become big in Germany. Most burger shops tried Philly cheesesteakes in the last 30 years, but most took it off their menu's since. E.g. in my 500K city in the east, we had at least 5 burger shops/restaurants with Philly cheesesteakes on the menu, only 2 carry it still. None of has comparable quality to my beloved Philly cheesesteak from South-Texas.