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It just seems like an old convention that has stuck, seem'm much simpler to anyone not familiar with ships to say 'ships left' or 'ships right' than to have new
by ajeet_dhaliwal 3y ago
It just seems like an old convention that has stuck, seem'm much simpler to anyone not familiar with ships to say 'ships left' or 'ships right' than to have new words. We don't do this with cars. You have a left rear door, not a port rear door.
- modernerd 3y ago> We don't do this with cars. You have a left rear door, not a port rear door. “Driver side rear door” or “passenger side rear door” are pretty common, at least in the US and UK, where they mean the opposite. “Nearside“ (passenger side nearest curb in a right-hand drive vehicle driving on the left) and “offside” (driver side furthest from curb) are also used in the UK.
- ajeet_dhaliwal 3y agoI don’t know how widespread this is but I don’t do this for the very reason you bring up with differences between countries, I drive in both the UK and Canada most years.
- theiz 3y agoIf you ever went 4x4 driving, you use driver / passenger to indicate the direction someone has to go to. This is because the navigation often is done from someone standing outside the car, where using left/right can be rather confusing.
- pbhjpbhj 3y agoIn UK a [experienced, older?] driver gives another driver instructions with "right hand down" and "left hand down". That is, you give directions to move the steering wheel. I've the vaguest recollection that sailing/steam boats used to say which side to move the wheel towards to steer; that begging opposite of the way the boat will go??
- HPsquared 3y agoFor repair instructions this actually causes a lot of confusion for someone in a right hand drive market. Half the time the repair instruction gets it wrong and would have been better saying left or right. Occasionally it is correct though if dealing with a part that's different in each market.
- philo23 3y agoI guess some could argue that we do have some special vocabulary for cars too. E.g. you don't call it the front/back door, you call it the bonnet/boot (or maybe hood/trunk depending where you're from) though that probably is stretching the definition of a door a little bit... but then you also have nearside and offside for passengers/drivers side, though that's probably a bit more of a technical term.
- HPsquared 3y agoI always get confused by nearside and offside. Is it "near to the driver" or "near to the roadside"?
- beardyw 3y agoNear the roadside.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago> though that probably is stretching the definition of a door a little bit... It is, but then so is the stupid "3-door" / "5-door" / etc. car classification, which is really 2-door / 4-door / etc. with the trunk being counted as additional door for some reason.
- garaetjjte 3y agoI think it makes sense for hatchbacks, where there's no real trunk/passenger cabin separation.
- vel0city 3y agoThe trunk is considered a door when it opens into the main cabin instead of a separate compartment.
- chewxy 3y agoCars are small and for the most part everyone in the car faces the same direction as the car itself. When you have a ship, you have 3 frames of references to contend with (self, ship, cardinal)
- sergiosgc 3y agoFour, actually. You also have the wind frame of reference, which is actually the most important (for sail boats). You don't turn left or right, you turn upwind or downwind.
- HPsquared 3y agoFor wind there is leeward (downwind) and windward (upwind). I don't think there are common terms for the 2 crosswind directions though?
- sergiosgc 3y agoI'm not familiar with sail vocabulary in English, but in Portuguese there is only downwind (sotavento) and upwind (barlavento). Functionally you don't need the other two, so I imagine it's similar in English.