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I see this claim every time the riots of 2020 are brought up, but have seen little evidence for it. Are we to assume that anyone who misbehaves at these events
by roarcher 3y ago
I see this claim every time the riots of 2020 are brought up, but have seen little evidence for it. Are we to assume that anyone who misbehaves at these events is a saboteur? That seems awfully convenient.
- brutal_chaos_ 3y agoit's also awfully convenient to assume that only the protesting party is at fault.
- roarcher 3y agoI didn't say "only". I'm responding to GP's assertion that these were "otherwise peaceful protests" if not for "bad actors from eastern Oregon". They're the one claiming it was only the other side. To be clear, I am not taking a centrist "both sides" position. I definitely think the vast majority of the violence and destruction was carried out by BLM and Antifa, in Portland and everywhere else that these riots occurred. But I won't go so far as to say that there were absolutely no saboteurs. I believe there were a handful of documented cases of them.
- prepend 3y agoIt is weird how much of a talking point it is. No evidence whatsoever, yet it’s mentioned so frequently. “I just know that all the bad actors were not the good people.” I’m sure soon the police will claim that the bad police officers are just non-police dressed up.
- fuckingbonkers 3y agoUmbrella guy was clearly intending to incite violence and is believed, as far as I’ve read, to have been a “saboteur“. Of course it’s not everyone. Mobs are idiots. But it’s not no one and the approach works, so it shouldn’t be ignored.