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I guess this may seem insensitive, and I admit, I will never understand, as I'm a young, single, childless male. Why do you need to post these pictures? It's n

by kipsfi 15y ago

I guess this may seem insensitive, and I admit, I will never understand, as I'm a young, single, childless male. Why do you need to post these pictures? It's not that I find these pictures offensive, but the odd time I see somebody breastfeeding in public, I do catch myself being slightly thrown off. It seems like a very private thing. Why do you WANT to post these pictures online?

gallamine 15y ago
I think part of the point they're protesting is the notion that breastfeeding should be a private, personal thing. These women believe it's normal, natural and there's no reason it shouldn't be public - like if you were to kiss or hug your child in public. I'm torn on the subject. There's plenty of normal, natural things that still should be private, but is nurturing our children one of them?
- mverwijs 15y ago
  > These women believe it's normal, natural ... That's because it is natural.
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- kipsfi 15y ago
  I guess that's part of my problem with it. The care of a child is just as natural as the conception of a child. Where do we draw the line? Am I aloud to post pictures of myself urinating? Because that's natural too. Natural != appropriate to show the public.
  - pbhjpbhj 15y ago
    It's the - feeding a baby in public - part that is naturally part of normal civilised society. Urinating in private is similarly a part of normal civilised society. It's confounded by the multiple definitions of natural: here it just means commonplace and ordinary.
  - ugh 15y ago
    But you have to explain why it’s not appropriate. You have to give reasons, you know.
  - rsanders 15y ago
    Even a single, childless male can think through the differences between conceiving a child and supplying that child's frequent, urgent nutritive needs. If you miss a meal, you may feel a little hungry or tired or cranky. As best I can represent it, a baby not being fed on his schedule is much like an adult not being supplied with oxygen. It's far worse than feeling a hunger pang. And women are equipped with a constantly available, sustainable, low cost, environmentally friendly, and energy efficient answer to this problem. So wtf is the problem? There is a public interest at work here. Breastfed babies are said to have fewer short and long term medical issues. Breastfeeding might be as important to our health (and crippling healthcare costs) as a people as bike paths, sidewalks, healthy foods, preventative medical visits, and any of the other many small lifestyle improvements which we are willing to spend many millions of dollars creating and promoting. And it costs us...a worldview adjusted ever-so-slightly back to what has been for most of our species' history perfect normalcy. This is an important issue. Encouraging breastfeeding, which does appear to be the superior form of infant nutrition, requires that we normalize it. If we're all too delicate to see tiny thumbnails of women breastfeeding floating by in our newsfeeds, how will anybody ever survive the rather more "graphic" occurrence of it happening next to them on the bus? I'm willing to accept bikers in far-too-revealing spandex. I have similarly learned to accept women breastfeeding. it's really not so bad once you actually encounter it...which is not something you'll ever know if you're being shielded from it by "decency" filters like Facebook's, or hearing the implied judgment that it's indecent.
    - dfxm12 15y ago
      "Natural and potentially life saving" is not the same as "natural". OP is either being obtuse or trolling you.
      - rsanders 15y ago
        I prefer to interpret the opposing party in such discussions as serving a vital function in a Socratic dialogue. Whether or not IHBT, it's useful to argue the issue with an opposing viewpoint.
Goronmon 15y ago
Why do you WANT to post these pictures online? Probably for the same reasons someone would want to post any picture online.
pron 15y ago
I think they call it "bonding with mother nature" or something, and nothing is really worth doing nowadays unless you can post it to Facebook for the whole world to see.
- Avshalom 15y ago
  Actually I think they call it "feeding their children."
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  - pron 15y ago
    They're not "feeding their children", they're making some sort of statement, which is entirely within their rights, but it has nothing to do with survival. When I eat I don't post action photos online.
    - rsanders 15y ago
      You don't; millions of Facebook users exercise the right to do so without having their photos removed. Look at the photos you do post of you doing whatever activity you consider central to your life and how your friends and family perceive you. Now imagine that Facebook prevented such photos. Wouldn't you find it annoying enough to raise a public outcry? Now imagine that what Facebook has decided to censor is not just some hobby of interest mainly to you, but a cause about which you care passionately and which profoundly affects every single member of every generation. It's a legitimate "think of the children!" situation. I don't mind Bill Gates working to eradicate malaria, just don't let him post pictures of filthy people in attire Westerners would consider improper. Ewww. Breastfeeding is coming back, and children are reaping the health benefits, precisely because concerned women have been dragging our culture back from its neurotic denial of it for over half a century now. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Leche_League http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Leche_League.
      - pron 15y ago
Tichy 15y ago
Perhaps if you would see it on Facebook all the time, it wouldn't throw you off if you encountered it in real life.
gte910h 15y ago
Do you find eating a private thing? These women don't either. Breastfeeding is a baby eating. Something they have to do a LOT of times a day. Would you like to eat in bathrooms? In tiny little closets? Under a blanket in the dark? These are all places baby feeding alarmests try to make babies eat. How would you feel if any picture that had a bit of a plate in it was censored off facebook because a group of mostly childless and old men found it offensive? Think about changing your atitude. Just because you're not used to seeing something doesn't mean the issue is with where it's happening, perhaps you're just not used to it.

by kipsfi 15y ago

gallamine 15y ago

I think part of the point they're protesting is the notion that breastfeeding should be a private, personal thing. These women believe it's normal, natural and there's no reason it shouldn't be public - like if you were to kiss or hug your child in public. I'm torn on the subject. There's plenty of normal, natural things that still should be private, but is nurturing our children one of them?

mverwijs 15y ago
> These women believe it's normal, natural ... That's because it is natural.
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kipsfi 15y ago
I guess that's part of my problem with it. The care of a child is just as natural as the conception of a child. Where do we draw the line? Am I aloud to post pictures of myself urinating? Because that's natural too. Natural != appropriate to show the public.
- pbhjpbhj 15y ago
  It's the - feeding a baby in public - part that is naturally part of normal civilised society. Urinating in private is similarly a part of normal civilised society. It's confounded by the multiple definitions of natural: here it just means commonplace and ordinary.
- ugh 15y ago
  But you have to explain why it’s not appropriate. You have to give reasons, you know.
- rsanders 15y ago
  Even a single, childless male can think through the differences between conceiving a child and supplying that child's frequent, urgent nutritive needs. If you miss a meal, you may feel a little hungry or tired or cranky. As best I can represent it, a baby not being fed on his schedule is much like an adult not being supplied with oxygen. It's far worse than feeling a hunger pang. And women are equipped with a constantly available, sustainable, low cost, environmentally friendly, and energy efficient answer to this problem. So wtf is the problem? There is a public interest at work here. Breastfed babies are said to have fewer short and long term medical issues. Breastfeeding might be as important to our health (and crippling healthcare costs) as a people as bike paths, sidewalks, healthy foods, preventative medical visits, and any of the other many small lifestyle improvements which we are willing to spend many millions of dollars creating and promoting. And it costs us...a worldview adjusted ever-so-slightly back to what has been for most of our species' history perfect normalcy. This is an important issue. Encouraging breastfeeding, which does appear to be the superior form of infant nutrition, requires that we normalize it. If we're all too delicate to see tiny thumbnails of women breastfeeding floating by in our newsfeeds, how will anybody ever survive the rather more "graphic" occurrence of it happening next to them on the bus? I'm willing to accept bikers in far-too-revealing spandex. I have similarly learned to accept women breastfeeding. it's really not so bad once you actually encounter it...which is not something you'll ever know if you're being shielded from it by "decency" filters like Facebook's, or hearing the implied judgment that it's indecent.
  - dfxm12 15y ago
    "Natural and potentially life saving" is not the same as "natural". OP is either being obtuse or trolling you.
    - rsanders 15y ago
      I prefer to interpret the opposing party in such discussions as serving a vital function in a Socratic dialogue. Whether or not IHBT, it's useful to argue the issue with an opposing viewpoint.

Goronmon 15y ago

Why do you WANT to post these pictures online? Probably for the same reasons someone would want to post any picture online.

pron 15y ago

I think they call it "bonding with mother nature" or something, and nothing is really worth doing nowadays unless you can post it to Facebook for the whole world to see.

Avshalom 15y ago
Actually I think they call it "feeding their children."
- deleted 15y ago
  [deleted]
- pron 15y ago
  They're not "feeding their children", they're making some sort of statement, which is entirely within their rights, but it has nothing to do with survival. When I eat I don't post action photos online.
  - rsanders 15y ago
    You don't; millions of Facebook users exercise the right to do so without having their photos removed. Look at the photos you do post of you doing whatever activity you consider central to your life and how your friends and family perceive you. Now imagine that Facebook prevented such photos. Wouldn't you find it annoying enough to raise a public outcry? Now imagine that what Facebook has decided to censor is not just some hobby of interest mainly to you, but a cause about which you care passionately and which profoundly affects every single member of every generation. It's a legitimate "think of the children!" situation. I don't mind Bill Gates working to eradicate malaria, just don't let him post pictures of filthy people in attire Westerners would consider improper. Ewww. Breastfeeding is coming back, and children are reaping the health benefits, precisely because concerned women have been dragging our culture back from its neurotic denial of it for over half a century now. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Leche_League http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Leche_League.
    - pron 15y ago

Tichy 15y ago

Perhaps if you would see it on Facebook all the time, it wouldn't throw you off if you encountered it in real life.

gte910h 15y ago

Do you find eating a private thing? These women don't either. Breastfeeding is a baby eating. Something they have to do a LOT of times a day. Would you like to eat in bathrooms? In tiny little closets? Under a blanket in the dark? These are all places baby feeding alarmests try to make babies eat. How would you feel if any picture that had a bit of a plate in it was censored off facebook because a group of mostly childless and old men found it offensive? Think about changing your atitude. Just because you're not used to seeing something doesn't mean the issue is with where it's happening, perhaps you're just not used to it.