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dude someone lied their way into being president of the united states all while people fact checked him basically immediately after each lie. lying doesnt make

dude someone lied their way into being president of the united states all while people fact checked him basically immediately after each lie. lying doesnt make a difference.

beowulfey 4y ago
He’s not presenting false evidence here, he’s presenting a hunch. It’s a guess. No one is going to gain anything from this one way or another.
- Andrex 4y ago
  > No one is going to gain anything from this one way or another. Then why did Altman even bother to make this very public statement?
  - not2b 4y ago
    To answer the people asking when GPT5 is coming out, probably.
  - neom 4y ago
    CEOs often make public statements for recruiting and to steer the company internally, it's important to mimmic what you say inside the company outside the company, maybe even more so.
  - ukuina 4y ago
    Altman's made it clear he does not mind being wrong. Smart people are allowed to make mistakes.
  - beowulfey 4y ago
    He was a guest on an AI-related discussion panel [1]. I did not attend, but I would guess someone asked him “do you think models will have to continuing growing to even larger sizes,” or something like that, and this was his answer. Honestly, that anyone thinks he has “ulterior motives” here is hilarious to me. Every day I think more and more that we can no longer think critically on the internet. [1] https://www.imaginationinaction.co/ https://www.imaginationinaction.co/
- mnky9800n 4y ago
  He is using his authority to put an idea in the minds of others. That idea is: "don't bother competing with me. i have already won."
ihatepython 4y ago
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- clouddrover 4y ago
  So your embrace of nihilism is total. Here are a couple of books worth reading: - On Tyranny: https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-tyranny-twenty-lessons-from-the-twentieth-century-timothy-snyder/16520165 https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-tyranny-twenty-lessons-from-... - The Road to Unfreedom: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-road-to-unfreedom-russia-europe-america-timothy-snyder/12095710 https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-road-to-unfreedom-russia-eu...
  - pessimizer 4y ago
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    - clouddrover 4y ago
      You're confused about who's who.
    - dang 4y ago
      Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 4y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 4y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait generally? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We ban accounts that keep posting like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35608465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35608465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35599412 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35599412 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35587730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35587730
Takennickname 4y ago
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- Dylan16807 4y ago
  It's usually a good thing to keep recent presidents and near future presidential candidates in memory. This isn't about some dumb grudge.
  - Takennickname 4y ago
    Some of us prefer to surf the internet without reddit leaking everywhere.
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      "rent free" is reddit leaking much more than bringing up a politician for a complaint.
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
      - Takennickname 4y ago
        So your response is "no u" Ok, cool.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        A little bit. It's not like an accusation of hypocrisy is automatically wrong, or anything. It really confuses me why you think such a mundane political statement is a reddit thing. Especially if you think the rent free thing isn't reddity, in which case you're not drawing with a super broad brush in a way I could at least understand.
dang 4y ago
"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35606550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35606550.

dude someone lied their way into being president of the united states all while people fact checked him basically immediately after each lie. lying doesnt make a difference.

beowulfey 4y ago

He’s not presenting false evidence here, he’s presenting a hunch. It’s a guess. No one is going to gain anything from this one way or another.

Andrex 4y ago
> No one is going to gain anything from this one way or another. Then why did Altman even bother to make this very public statement?
- not2b 4y ago
  To answer the people asking when GPT5 is coming out, probably.
- neom 4y ago
  CEOs often make public statements for recruiting and to steer the company internally, it's important to mimmic what you say inside the company outside the company, maybe even more so.
- ukuina 4y ago
  Altman's made it clear he does not mind being wrong. Smart people are allowed to make mistakes.
- beowulfey 4y ago
  He was a guest on an AI-related discussion panel [1]. I did not attend, but I would guess someone asked him “do you think models will have to continuing growing to even larger sizes,” or something like that, and this was his answer. Honestly, that anyone thinks he has “ulterior motives” here is hilarious to me. Every day I think more and more that we can no longer think critically on the internet. [1] https://www.imaginationinaction.co/ https://www.imaginationinaction.co/
mnky9800n 4y ago
He is using his authority to put an idea in the minds of others. That idea is: "don't bother competing with me. i have already won."

ihatepython 4y ago

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clouddrover 4y ago
So your embrace of nihilism is total. Here are a couple of books worth reading: - On Tyranny: https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-tyranny-twenty-lessons-from-the-twentieth-century-timothy-snyder/16520165 https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-tyranny-twenty-lessons-from-... - The Road to Unfreedom: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-road-to-unfreedom-russia-europe-america-timothy-snyder/12095710 https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-road-to-unfreedom-russia-eu...
- pessimizer 4y ago
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  - clouddrover 4y ago
    You're confused about who's who.
  - dang 4y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 4y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 4y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait generally? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We ban accounts that keep posting like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35608465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35608465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35599412 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35599412 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35587730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35587730

Takennickname 4y ago

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Dylan16807 4y ago
It's usually a good thing to keep recent presidents and near future presidential candidates in memory. This isn't about some dumb grudge.
- Takennickname 4y ago
  Some of us prefer to surf the internet without reddit leaking everywhere.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    "rent free" is reddit leaking much more than bringing up a politician for a complaint.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - Takennickname 4y ago
      So your response is "no u" Ok, cool.
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        A little bit. It's not like an accusation of hypocrisy is automatically wrong, or anything. It really confuses me why you think such a mundane political statement is a reddit thing. Especially if you think the rent free thing isn't reddity, in which case you're not drawing with a super broad brush in a way I could at least understand.

dang 4y ago

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35606550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35606550.