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There are enlightened tech companies? Tech is no more enlightened than the robber barons were 100 years ago. There’s only three real options for platforms lik

There are enlightened tech companies? Tech is no more enlightened than the robber barons were 100 years ago. There’s only three real options for platforms like SO: - Mozilla - Wikimedia Foundation - Internet Archive

BrandoElFollito 4y ago
Let's Encrypt is an example of such construction
chx 4y ago
I did say this counts as wishful thinking...
micromacrofoot 4y ago
Automattic? they got a bargain on tumblr
the_third_wave 4y ago
Only one really, this being Internet Archive. Mozilla [1] and the Wikimedia Foundation [2 - talking about Wikipedia specifically] are too ideologically tainted to be seen as "enlightened". I have not heard of similar problems with the Internet Archive so I hope that sanity prevails in that organisation so that internet history is recorded regardless of the ideological bent of what is archived. [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat... [2] https://unherd.com/thepost/wikipedia-co-founder-i-no-longer-trust-the-website-i-created/ https://unherd.com/thepost/wikipedia-co-founder-i-no-longer-...
- Karunamon 4y ago
  In addition to the problems you listed, Wikimedia spends money like it was water, and Mozilla's handling of their main product, Firefox, could be charitably described as mismanagement. Neither organization deserves trust.
  - worldsayshi 4y ago
    What about Blender foundation?
    - hutzlibu 4y ago
      A bit out of scope for them?
      - worldsayshi 4y ago
        Ops, yeah I misunderstood the discussion point.
- andrepd 4y ago
  > Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted. > Commit to meaningful transparency of platform algorithms so we know how and what content is being amplified, to whom, and the associated impact. Can't really argue with that, even though I also frown at the tone of the test of the post.
- majormajor 4y ago
  The Internet Archive that just risked their existence on a why-did-we-think-we'd-get-away-with-this blunder (charitably you could call this ideological blindness, at best?)?
brookst 4y ago
Calling any company enlightened is a mistake. But it is possible for tech companies, even ones we generally think of as evil, to collaborate (entirely out of self interest!) on mutually beneficial advancements. Don't mistake "it would be wise for tech companies to support such a thing because they would get ROI" with "any company who supported such a thing should automatically be declared noble and perfect and of unimpeachable character forever"

BrandoElFollito 4y ago

Let's Encrypt is an example of such construction

chx 4y ago

I did say this counts as wishful thinking...

micromacrofoot 4y ago

Automattic? they got a bargain on tumblr

the_third_wave 4y ago

Only one really, this being Internet Archive. Mozilla [1] and the Wikimedia Foundation [2 - talking about Wikipedia specifically] are too ideologically tainted to be seen as "enlightened". I have not heard of similar problems with the Internet Archive so I hope that sanity prevails in that organisation so that internet history is recorded regardless of the ideological bent of what is archived. [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat... [2] https://unherd.com/thepost/wikipedia-co-founder-i-no-longer-trust-the-website-i-created/ https://unherd.com/thepost/wikipedia-co-founder-i-no-longer-...

Karunamon 4y ago
In addition to the problems you listed, Wikimedia spends money like it was water, and Mozilla's handling of their main product, Firefox, could be charitably described as mismanagement. Neither organization deserves trust.
- worldsayshi 4y ago
  What about Blender foundation?
  - hutzlibu 4y ago
    A bit out of scope for them?
    - worldsayshi 4y ago
      Ops, yeah I misunderstood the discussion point.
andrepd 4y ago
> Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted. > Commit to meaningful transparency of platform algorithms so we know how and what content is being amplified, to whom, and the associated impact. Can't really argue with that, even though I also frown at the tone of the test of the post.
majormajor 4y ago
The Internet Archive that just risked their existence on a why-did-we-think-we'd-get-away-with-this blunder (charitably you could call this ideological blindness, at best?)?

brookst 4y ago

Calling any company enlightened is a mistake. But it is possible for tech companies, even ones we generally think of as evil, to collaborate (entirely out of self interest!) on mutually beneficial advancements. Don't mistake "it would be wise for tech companies to support such a thing because they would get ROI" with "any company who supported such a thing should automatically be declared noble and perfect and of unimpeachable character forever"