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the collective (i.e. the figurative global city understood as itself) fighting the individual persons which built the city and live in it. it's like an allergi
by hn_throawlles 4y ago
the collective (i.e. the figurative global city understood as itself) fighting the individual persons which built the city and live in it.
it's like an allergic reaction,
it's as if I went to war against my cells for being 'legacy' and 'old culture'
- pphysch 4y agoWhat would a cancerous tumor represent in this analogy?
- hn_throawlles 4y agoI don't think this analogy is sufficient to answer that. we may need to delve deep into types and causes of cancer
- pphysch 4y agoCancerous tumors represent corrupted cells or "hyperindividualists" that enrich themselves at the absolute expense of the host, and may end up killing it and themselves in the process.
- thegrimmest 4y agoThis requires a view that "society" is some sort of organism. Not everyone holds this view. Some of us think that we're a collection of individuals agreeing only to resolve disputes nonviolently (read: coexist not cooperate). It's also immediately problematic. Who gets to steer this organism?
- pixl97 4y agoIt is very weird that we think of ourselves as individuals, and not at minimum a part of some small collective. Those people ignore all evolutionary history that we didn't develop as individuals at all.
- pphysch 4y agoBy that reasoning, you are a collection of cells individually agreeing to coexist. If you are an organism/individual/ensouled being, then a society can be as well. > Who gets to steer this organism? It suggests the importance of a central nervous system (e.g. government).
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- whatshisface 4y agoWell, cancer is caused by a series of inopportune mutations, and prevented when the immune system clears out cells it recognizes are different. I don't like where this analogy is heading!
- marcosdumay 4y agoHum... In principle, we can require that a police force must exhibit more intelligence than our immune system. We are talking over a pile of evidence pointing that this doesn't always happen. But it's quite a jump to conclude that it can't ever happen.
- scythe 4y agoOrganized crime, e.g. the Sinaloa Cartel.