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I think I'm more surprised that Sega even has $1B to spend...

cloudking 4y ago
They made some of it from the Sonic movies, both of which I personally enjoyed. Jim Carrey plays a legendary villain. https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2021/11/07/sega-talks-sonic-movie-success/ https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2021/11/07/sega-talks-s... https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2022/04/28/box-office-sonic-the-hedgehog-2-becomes-top-grossing-video-game-movie/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2022/04/28/box-o... A third movie is on the way.
- krabizzwainch 4y ago
  I definitely planned on watching both of these and just completely forgot about them. They should just use this money on a Dreamcast 2 instead!
  - toast0 4y ago
    What would Dreamcast 2 bring for users or Sega? On the consumer side, I can only imagine it would be yet another x86 based console, because what else is there to do? Another samey controller, because once you add a right analog stick, and left and right bumpers and a home button, what do you have left to differentiate on? Can't even put the cable on the wrong side anymore. I guess you could have a nicer screen and just build it into the controller, but that was hardly used last time. On Sega's side, they're going to do all that R&D to make the same thing as everyone else and then how are they going to make the money back? Not on first party game sales. Third party sales will be hard too, unless they have some really strong pitch, but at this point, they're really a new entrant, so who's going to port to the new guy's platform, unless it's so amazing and underpriced that everyone will want to buy it. Might be nice if they can figure out how to make a mini-dreamcast though. Depends on how many games they can get licensees to sign up for though, I guess.
- jmrm 4y ago
  I won't be surprised if they used the Angry Birds IP to sell another movie
  - cloudking 4y ago
    Sonic vs Angry Birds?
BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
If Angry Birds is worth $1 Billion dollars, George Lucas sold Star Wars for an absolute pittance at $4 Billion.
- WastingMyTime89 4y ago
  Yes, that’s pretty much an agreed upon fact. Disney already made the money back through the three main films alone.
  - anshumankmr 4y ago
    Not to be pedantic, but the net profit =/= revenue from the movies. Even though the Sequel Trilogy was a financial success, the net revenue was definitely lower than 5-6Bn the movies earned. Here's a source https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/03/01/revealed-disneys-most-profitable-star-wars-movie/?sh=6d361d7c2a25 https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/03/01/reveale... But once you factor in toys for the movies and shows (and other merch), DVD and Bluray sales,video games units sold and microtransactions, theme park tickets, increased subscriptions to Disney+ for marquee shows like the Mandalorian etc. it probably has been made back, probably with a multiplier.
    - dottrap 4y ago
      Lots of indies keep close track of Disney. Many of them have a good understanding of the cost structures and revenue splits, and every time somebody does a breakdown of the numbers, Disney is bleeding red ink with the Lucasfilm acquisition. It's a complete boondoggle for Disney. This is just one example breakdown of the numbers: https://practicaleconomics.org/category/star-wars/ https://practicaleconomics.org/category/star-wars/ We also know that Disney+ is hemorrhaging tons of money. Disney reported something like a $1.1 billion loss in 2003-q1, and $1.5 billion loss the previous quarter. This is like Disney sinking one of their cruise liners every quarter. Neilsen streaming ratings have shown Star Wars shows have completely fallen off and have failed keep Disney+ competitive. There are also tons of stories reported about how the Star Wars toys have failed to sell, and retailers were fire selling everything trying to get rid of the merchandise.
staticman2 4y ago
Wikipedia says Sega had about 186 million dollars worth of net income in 2020.
buzer 4y ago
It's likely that parent company (Sega Sammy Holdings) is the one who is buying/financing it. Sega accounts for less than 10% of their revenue.

They made some of it from the Sonic movies, both of which I personally enjoyed. Jim Carrey plays a legendary villain. https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2021/11/07/sega-talks-sonic-movie-success/ https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2021/11/07/sega-talks-s... https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2022/04/28/box-office-sonic-the-hedgehog-2-becomes-top-grossing-video-game-movie/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2022/04/28/box-o... A third movie is on the way.

krabizzwainch 4y ago
I definitely planned on watching both of these and just completely forgot about them. They should just use this money on a Dreamcast 2 instead!
- toast0 4y ago
  What would Dreamcast 2 bring for users or Sega? On the consumer side, I can only imagine it would be yet another x86 based console, because what else is there to do? Another samey controller, because once you add a right analog stick, and left and right bumpers and a home button, what do you have left to differentiate on? Can't even put the cable on the wrong side anymore. I guess you could have a nicer screen and just build it into the controller, but that was hardly used last time. On Sega's side, they're going to do all that R&D to make the same thing as everyone else and then how are they going to make the money back? Not on first party game sales. Third party sales will be hard too, unless they have some really strong pitch, but at this point, they're really a new entrant, so who's going to port to the new guy's platform, unless it's so amazing and underpriced that everyone will want to buy it. Might be nice if they can figure out how to make a mini-dreamcast though. Depends on how many games they can get licensees to sign up for though, I guess.
jmrm 4y ago
I won't be surprised if they used the Angry Birds IP to sell another movie
- cloudking 4y ago
  Sonic vs Angry Birds?

BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago

If Angry Birds is worth $1 Billion dollars, George Lucas sold Star Wars for an absolute pittance at $4 Billion.

WastingMyTime89 4y ago
Yes, that’s pretty much an agreed upon fact. Disney already made the money back through the three main films alone.
- anshumankmr 4y ago
  Not to be pedantic, but the net profit =/= revenue from the movies. Even though the Sequel Trilogy was a financial success, the net revenue was definitely lower than 5-6Bn the movies earned. Here's a source https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/03/01/revealed-disneys-most-profitable-star-wars-movie/?sh=6d361d7c2a25 https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/03/01/reveale... But once you factor in toys for the movies and shows (and other merch), DVD and Bluray sales,video games units sold and microtransactions, theme park tickets, increased subscriptions to Disney+ for marquee shows like the Mandalorian etc. it probably has been made back, probably with a multiplier.
  - dottrap 4y ago
    Lots of indies keep close track of Disney. Many of them have a good understanding of the cost structures and revenue splits, and every time somebody does a breakdown of the numbers, Disney is bleeding red ink with the Lucasfilm acquisition. It's a complete boondoggle for Disney. This is just one example breakdown of the numbers: https://practicaleconomics.org/category/star-wars/ https://practicaleconomics.org/category/star-wars/ We also know that Disney+ is hemorrhaging tons of money. Disney reported something like a $1.1 billion loss in 2003-q1, and $1.5 billion loss the previous quarter. This is like Disney sinking one of their cruise liners every quarter. Neilsen streaming ratings have shown Star Wars shows have completely fallen off and have failed keep Disney+ competitive. There are also tons of stories reported about how the Star Wars toys have failed to sell, and retailers were fire selling everything trying to get rid of the merchandise.

staticman2 4y ago

Wikipedia says Sega had about 186 million dollars worth of net income in 2020.

buzer 4y ago

It's likely that parent company (Sega Sammy Holdings) is the one who is buying/financing it. Sega accounts for less than 10% of their revenue.