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I think that is just endemic to getting older. Things can't thrill you the same way they did when you were young. You've got more experience. Also the world wa

I think that is just endemic to getting older. Things can't thrill you the same way they did when you were young. You've got more experience. Also the world was more optimistic back then. I was born in 81 so growing up in the 90s was great. It was a optimistic time and in general things were no where near as decisive as now. The internet was ushering in a new age and we didn't know how it would change the world. Fast forward to now when the internet and smart phone revolution has happened and we are in a much more dark and bitter place. We've seen some real negatives on society because of these in innovations and with ai there is more of an existential dread about what it means for society than any optimism. It's just not possible to recapture those times IMO.

paulryanrogers 4y ago
Growing up in the same era I suspect nostalgia is at play here. It was more wild west, both for the better and worst. People got hurt and exploited then too. It wasn't all sunshine and roses.
- DoesntMatter22 4y ago
  What do you mean it was more wild west, both for the better and the worst? That is so vague that it could mean anything. I never said people didn't get hurt and were exploited. That is literally true for any year in US history. But, it was a completely different world and much more optimistic. By 2001 you had 9/11 that engulfed much of the world's consciousness. Then the constant war on terror where there were a decade or more of constant talk of beheadings and suicide bombings. Were there are couple of these instances in the 90's? Yes, but it was an all consuming issue after 2001. Then there is the rise of absolute insane political fights. Were there some in the 90's? Yes but not on this scale. Now it's completely vitriolic and completely hate filled, and it is 24/7 now. With the internet even kids are completely affected. In the 90's the internet was... I won't say safe, but it was way safer. Now kids are raised on the internet and spend an enormous amount of time disaffected. In the 90's as kids we spent most of the day outside. Video games were there but Sonic was only so much fun. Most kids didn't play games all day. We live in a dystopia compared to then. And as I said there was a huge sense of optimism. Those that are optimistic now are few and far between.
  - paulryanrogers 4y ago
    IME the 90s Internet and networks had more brazen creeps ("ASL"), lots of naivety, scams, and bullying was still bad. Ads were there very early and quickly escalated to loud, animated, and pop-up hell. I didn't notice much optimism, rather pessimism that people continued to look down on 'nerds' and the annoying and slow Internet. Many of us were mocked for spending so much time inside staring at screens wired to the wall. Normal people didn't see its benefits, and many of us nerds used it mostly for gaming and to escape our limited friend options IRL.
    - shrimp_emoji 4y ago
      Are you saying it was more Deep Space 9 than Next Generation?
      - paulryanrogers 4y ago
        Can't think of any ST show comparison which fits. Though if you spoke of ST among my IRL friends in the 90s then you'd be as openly mocked as admitting to sitting at a computer for 2+ hours.
    - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
      I'm talking about optimism in society in general. You have a super overly negative view. Generally in the 90's if you did anything with computers you were seen as a genius. The internet really wasn't annoyingly slow until close to 2000 where you were trying to watch video and download mp3s. It was really only bad when compared retrospectively.
markus_zhang 4y ago
This. I was born in early 80s too and I lost a lot of previous passions. I was very into gaming back in the 90s/early 2000s, nowadays I rarely play them. I thought I am more into older games but 200+ games sitting on GoG convinced me otherwise. Games are really boring comparing to real world. I think the only things that can surprise me is a hot WW3 or a 1929 style depression. I have seen the rest.
- DoesntMatter22 4y ago
  A 1929 depression wouldn't even surprise me, to me it's a question of when. Plus people are so much more unruly now that I think people would be rioting on a scale that was previously unprecedented. A nuke going off I don't even see as an impossibility. Same here on games though. I thought my adult years would just be me playing all the great games. But as an adult they are much less interesting. That's what makes being young such a vulnerable time. You don't know that you are going to dramatically change once you become and adult. But generally you will.
  - markus_zhang 4y ago
    Yeah man, and that leads to think that maybe I should not leave what I want to do in my 40s to 6/70s.

paulryanrogers 4y ago

Growing up in the same era I suspect nostalgia is at play here. It was more wild west, both for the better and worst. People got hurt and exploited then too. It wasn't all sunshine and roses.

DoesntMatter22 4y ago
What do you mean it was more wild west, both for the better and the worst? That is so vague that it could mean anything. I never said people didn't get hurt and were exploited. That is literally true for any year in US history. But, it was a completely different world and much more optimistic. By 2001 you had 9/11 that engulfed much of the world's consciousness. Then the constant war on terror where there were a decade or more of constant talk of beheadings and suicide bombings. Were there are couple of these instances in the 90's? Yes, but it was an all consuming issue after 2001. Then there is the rise of absolute insane political fights. Were there some in the 90's? Yes but not on this scale. Now it's completely vitriolic and completely hate filled, and it is 24/7 now. With the internet even kids are completely affected. In the 90's the internet was... I won't say safe, but it was way safer. Now kids are raised on the internet and spend an enormous amount of time disaffected. In the 90's as kids we spent most of the day outside. Video games were there but Sonic was only so much fun. Most kids didn't play games all day. We live in a dystopia compared to then. And as I said there was a huge sense of optimism. Those that are optimistic now are few and far between.
- paulryanrogers 4y ago
  IME the 90s Internet and networks had more brazen creeps ("ASL"), lots of naivety, scams, and bullying was still bad. Ads were there very early and quickly escalated to loud, animated, and pop-up hell. I didn't notice much optimism, rather pessimism that people continued to look down on 'nerds' and the annoying and slow Internet. Many of us were mocked for spending so much time inside staring at screens wired to the wall. Normal people didn't see its benefits, and many of us nerds used it mostly for gaming and to escape our limited friend options IRL.
  - shrimp_emoji 4y ago
    Are you saying it was more Deep Space 9 than Next Generation?
    - paulryanrogers 4y ago
      Can't think of any ST show comparison which fits. Though if you spoke of ST among my IRL friends in the 90s then you'd be as openly mocked as admitting to sitting at a computer for 2+ hours.
  - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
    I'm talking about optimism in society in general. You have a super overly negative view. Generally in the 90's if you did anything with computers you were seen as a genius. The internet really wasn't annoyingly slow until close to 2000 where you were trying to watch video and download mp3s. It was really only bad when compared retrospectively.

markus_zhang 4y ago

This. I was born in early 80s too and I lost a lot of previous passions. I was very into gaming back in the 90s/early 2000s, nowadays I rarely play them. I thought I am more into older games but 200+ games sitting on GoG convinced me otherwise. Games are really boring comparing to real world. I think the only things that can surprise me is a hot WW3 or a 1929 style depression. I have seen the rest.

DoesntMatter22 4y ago
A 1929 depression wouldn't even surprise me, to me it's a question of when. Plus people are so much more unruly now that I think people would be rioting on a scale that was previously unprecedented. A nuke going off I don't even see as an impossibility. Same here on games though. I thought my adult years would just be me playing all the great games. But as an adult they are much less interesting. That's what makes being young such a vulnerable time. You don't know that you are going to dramatically change once you become and adult. But generally you will.
- markus_zhang 4y ago
  Yeah man, and that leads to think that maybe I should not leave what I want to do in my 40s to 6/70s.