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Anyone else much prefer just mounting your phone on the dash, instead of a separate carplay system? Bonus points if the mount has wireless charging. This way th

Anyone else much prefer just mounting your phone on the dash, instead of a separate carplay system? Bonus points if the mount has wireless charging. This way there’s no new UI to learn, and you never are stuck using a subpar carplay-variant UI (looking at you, Gaia)

copperx 4y ago
Nope, not here. My phone has a minuscule 6.1" screen, but if you have a regular sized phone, mounting the phone might work.
- explaininjs 4y ago
  I’m rocking a 4.7” screen but still have no problems with size. I prefer a small screen with just the critical information right in my prime field of view versus a large screen with a bunch of junk on it that I have to turn my head to look at.
jterrys 4y ago
I'm finding myself in the odd position of desiring an older car to not put up with the bullshit. I don't need OnStar, I don't need lane assist, I don't need self driving. I don't need my fucking car to brake for me when it thinks I'm in danger. Just let me drive. Now they're trying to monetize heated seats and connecting my phone. It never ends. I don't need cars as a service. I just need a car. The joy of seeing car bro gearheads with their LS swaps get humiliated by normies in Teslas wasn't worth it. Take me back.
- bagels 4y ago
  Don't buy a GM, onstar has been around for decades now.
- explaininjs 4y ago
  Yep, that's why I drive a 20 year old truck. Interestingly, I've driven 60k+ miles in this truck (and others like it) and maybe 1-2k in all other vehicles, including those with auto breaking/etc. The only times I've been in incidents where auto breaking was needed was when I had it. No clue why, perhaps something about all the features lulled me into a false sense of security where I took my eyes off the road for much longer than I would in my truck.
holoduke 4y ago
Same here. The only thing I need is some kind of Bluetooth adapter and some decent speakers. Phone is perfect for everything else.
beachy 4y ago
Nope, for me using a phone is a much worse experience. 1) Small screen hard to read with ageing eyes from that distance, or to operate touch controls precisely. This alone is a deal breaker, anything that requires more focus or concentration is A safety hazard and a no go. 2) unsightly charging cables hanging around. 3) no backing camera support. Also a safety hazard. 4) no handsfree support i.e control volume, skip songs without looking or lifting hands from the steering wheel
- philsnow 4y ago
  > 3) no backing camera support. Also a safety hazard. You wouldn't even want the phone to show the backup camera; you said it's too small for your eyes. The car has to be able to show the backup camera in the console anyway. > 4) no handsfree support i.e control volume, skip songs without looking or lifting hands from the steering wheel I have disabled bluetooth in my cars because it's a worse experience than wired CarPlay, but if I had to, I could just go back to it and my cars support controlling the music from the physical car controls (including the ones on the steering wheel), just like when it's connected by CarPlay. This has worked for ~15 years at least.
- explaininjs 4y ago
  > Small screen hard to read with ageing eyes from that distance, or to operate touch controls precisely. This alone is a deal breaker, anything that requires more focus or concentration is A safety hazard and a no go. I could see this being an issue for some eyes. For me though the phone's touch screen is actually far easier to operate due to its location next to the steering wheel/driver's side support column. Rather than hovering my hand in the air at full reach to interact with a central unit, I keep my hand braced against either the wheel or the handle on the column and have full support when interacting with the phone. > unsightly charging cables hanging around. Guilty as charged. I did wire the cable to my wireless charger behind the trim in an appealing way, but my new phone doesn't even support wireless charging so I have a dangling wire now. > no backing camera support. My vehicle doesn't have a camera, but I've never really needed it. It comes from the time when the rear windows were large enough to clearly see everything going on out the back. This is before regulations shifted to make the rear columns massive, block all your visibility, and force you to use the camera rather than your own sense and intuition. If I had a tiny child I might reconsider. > no handsfree support i.e control volume, skip songs without looking or lifting hands from the steering wheel I installed a device (USA Spec BT45-TOY) that allows my phone's bluetooth to connect to the stock head unit with full support for steering wheel controls. All the magic of bluetooth with 0 LCD screens shining at me (so long as my phone screen is off).
fma 4y ago
For long trios that's what I do. I wear headphones to listen to music and audio books so I don't disturb my family. There's no way to tell Android Auto to only use my headphones, despite it being asked.
koheripbal 4y ago
Similarly, the wife and kids much prefer to use their own devices than to use the common car screen to watch movies. It just makes no sense anymore for cars to have entertainment and navigation systems at all. Our phones do everything. The only smart features I need in the can are vehicle instrumentation displays.
tempaccount420 4y ago
Makes texting less comfortable though IMO.
- explaininjs 4y ago
  You actually like the Car Play texting implementation? Doesn't it refuse to show the text message content on screen and prohibit keyboard entry?
  - Tagbert 4y ago
    Yes. While you’re driving it is voice only. That is a safety feature. I don’t want to do keyboard entry!
    - explaininjs 4y ago
      I suppose it’s fine if you don’t mind the voice control. I hate it so I prefer to not text and just drive. When conditions permit I dedicate my full focus to the phone/messaging.

copperx 4y ago

Nope, not here. My phone has a minuscule 6.1" screen, but if you have a regular sized phone, mounting the phone might work.

explaininjs 4y ago
I’m rocking a 4.7” screen but still have no problems with size. I prefer a small screen with just the critical information right in my prime field of view versus a large screen with a bunch of junk on it that I have to turn my head to look at.

jterrys 4y ago

I'm finding myself in the odd position of desiring an older car to not put up with the bullshit. I don't need OnStar, I don't need lane assist, I don't need self driving. I don't need my fucking car to brake for me when it thinks I'm in danger. Just let me drive. Now they're trying to monetize heated seats and connecting my phone. It never ends. I don't need cars as a service. I just need a car. The joy of seeing car bro gearheads with their LS swaps get humiliated by normies in Teslas wasn't worth it. Take me back.

bagels 4y ago
Don't buy a GM, onstar has been around for decades now.
explaininjs 4y ago
Yep, that's why I drive a 20 year old truck. Interestingly, I've driven 60k+ miles in this truck (and others like it) and maybe 1-2k in all other vehicles, including those with auto breaking/etc. The only times I've been in incidents where auto breaking was needed was when I had it. No clue why, perhaps something about all the features lulled me into a false sense of security where I took my eyes off the road for much longer than I would in my truck.

holoduke 4y ago

Same here. The only thing I need is some kind of Bluetooth adapter and some decent speakers. Phone is perfect for everything else.

beachy 4y ago

Nope, for me using a phone is a much worse experience. 1) Small screen hard to read with ageing eyes from that distance, or to operate touch controls precisely. This alone is a deal breaker, anything that requires more focus or concentration is A safety hazard and a no go. 2) unsightly charging cables hanging around. 3) no backing camera support. Also a safety hazard. 4) no handsfree support i.e control volume, skip songs without looking or lifting hands from the steering wheel

philsnow 4y ago
> 3) no backing camera support. Also a safety hazard. You wouldn't even want the phone to show the backup camera; you said it's too small for your eyes. The car has to be able to show the backup camera in the console anyway. > 4) no handsfree support i.e control volume, skip songs without looking or lifting hands from the steering wheel I have disabled bluetooth in my cars because it's a worse experience than wired CarPlay, but if I had to, I could just go back to it and my cars support controlling the music from the physical car controls (including the ones on the steering wheel), just like when it's connected by CarPlay. This has worked for ~15 years at least.
explaininjs 4y ago
> Small screen hard to read with ageing eyes from that distance, or to operate touch controls precisely. This alone is a deal breaker, anything that requires more focus or concentration is A safety hazard and a no go. I could see this being an issue for some eyes. For me though the phone's touch screen is actually far easier to operate due to its location next to the steering wheel/driver's side support column. Rather than hovering my hand in the air at full reach to interact with a central unit, I keep my hand braced against either the wheel or the handle on the column and have full support when interacting with the phone. > unsightly charging cables hanging around. Guilty as charged. I did wire the cable to my wireless charger behind the trim in an appealing way, but my new phone doesn't even support wireless charging so I have a dangling wire now. > no backing camera support. My vehicle doesn't have a camera, but I've never really needed it. It comes from the time when the rear windows were large enough to clearly see everything going on out the back. This is before regulations shifted to make the rear columns massive, block all your visibility, and force you to use the camera rather than your own sense and intuition. If I had a tiny child I might reconsider. > no handsfree support i.e control volume, skip songs without looking or lifting hands from the steering wheel I installed a device (USA Spec BT45-TOY) that allows my phone's bluetooth to connect to the stock head unit with full support for steering wheel controls. All the magic of bluetooth with 0 LCD screens shining at me (so long as my phone screen is off).

fma 4y ago

For long trios that's what I do. I wear headphones to listen to music and audio books so I don't disturb my family. There's no way to tell Android Auto to only use my headphones, despite it being asked.

koheripbal 4y ago

Similarly, the wife and kids much prefer to use their own devices than to use the common car screen to watch movies. It just makes no sense anymore for cars to have entertainment and navigation systems at all. Our phones do everything. The only smart features I need in the can are vehicle instrumentation displays.

tempaccount420 4y ago

Makes texting less comfortable though IMO.

explaininjs 4y ago
You actually like the Car Play texting implementation? Doesn't it refuse to show the text message content on screen and prohibit keyboard entry?
- Tagbert 4y ago
  Yes. While you’re driving it is voice only. That is a safety feature. I don’t want to do keyboard entry!
  - explaininjs 4y ago
    I suppose it’s fine if you don’t mind the voice control. I hate it so I prefer to not text and just drive. When conditions permit I dedicate my full focus to the phone/messaging.