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> Let's not forget both the media and the government have spent the last couple of weeks on a gaslighting tour telling us the leak was Russian propaganda, etc.
by kadoban 4y ago
> Let's not forget both the media and the government have spent the last couple of weeks on a gaslighting tour telling us the leak was Russian propaganda, etc.
Who has been saying this? First time I've heard it. The closest I've heard is that there's two versions of the "leak", one with modified numbers making it look better for Russia. Which still appears to be true.
> We have US troops on the ground presumably fighting Russia
Does not appear to be true. What are you basing this on?
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- Overtonwindow 4y agoWell, the New York Times opined on the possibilty... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/us/politics/classified-documents-leak.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/us/politics/classified-do... Canadian Broadcasting Corporation wrote about it https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-military-leaks-1.6805049 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-military-leaks-... One of the first reactions from the government and Ukraine was that this was all Russian disinformation. Then within a couple of days other media sources weighed in and there was considerable debate, until this guy was identified. So yes. Many people have hypothesized this was Russian disinformation. Here's two more: Al Jazerra: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/10/us-scrambles-to-find-source-of-leak-of-russia-ukraine-intel https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/10/us-scrambles-to-fin... and NBC: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-reviewing-leak-classified-documents-ukraine-war-strength-rcna78771 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-...
- kadoban 4y agoNone of that really seems to support this claim: > "Let's not forget both the media and the government have spent the last couple of weeks on a gaslighting tour telling us the leak was Russian propaganda, etc." They all call it a leak and specify that parts of it appear doctored, which is also what I said, right? Has any of that changed or been disproven?
- Overtonwindow 4y agoNo, it wasn't meant to, it was to refute your claim that no one was talking about it.
- kadoban 4y agoI was specifically objecting to the claim that I quoted.
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