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Seems unlikely to be enforceable as "overly expansive", as someone could surely argue our brains are just AI and/or ML but in organic form. Does that mean I'm n

Seems unlikely to be enforceable as "overly expansive", as someone could surely argue our brains are just AI and/or ML but in organic form. Does that mean I'm not allowed to learn from the website?

weird-eye-issue 4y ago
Are you aware of what the "A" in AI and the "M" in ML stand for?
- capableweb 4y ago
  No, I work in a field without having zero idea what the most basic terminology actually means. Are you aware what "organic" means? Have some imagination. We can call it OI and OL to make it a bit easier if you want.
  - hgsgm 4y ago
    Did you know that different words have different meanings?
  - weird-eye-issue 4y ago
    If you called something OI and OL then you wouldn't be referring to AI and ML. They would be different things. It's clearly big brain time for you...
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    > Are you aware what "organic" means? I am, but I always get an argument when I tell certain people that "all food is organic", despite the fact that's technically correct.
lelanthran 4y ago
> as someone could surely argue our brains are just AI and/or ML but in organic form. Our brains are artificial intelligence? Humans are machine learning? I mean, c'mon. If humans are artificial, then what do you call real? If humans are machines, then what on earth isn't?
- bombcar 4y ago
  I could see an argument that a test tube baby might be something like a human created by artifice.
  - nraynaud 4y ago
    good luck with that, it's pure natural DNA and pure natural gestation and pure old-school education. only the fecondation was provoked.
pxoe 4y ago
>someone could surely argue No, they could not. Even if they did, those things are just different. It won't change what AI/ML is, a bunch of bytes in memory and on a disk. Just making a bunch of reaching comparisons, won't absolve AI/ML of responsibility.
unosama 4y ago
Neural networks are modeled of human brains in some ways but the majority of AI is not and humans just anthropomorphize the results. Humans don't take in terabytes of data and spend hours fitting a multidimensional regression between labels and the raw data. We build logical connections to understand things over continued exposure. Just because AI "feels" human does not mean it approaches anything actually resembling a human mind. What holds us back from understanding this in the legal system is the fact that lawyers and judges are so technically illiterate.
- marcosdumay 4y ago
  > Neural networks are modeled of human brains in some ways Hum... Not really. They are modeled after our periferic nervous system. Detailed knowledge about the brain wasn't very available at computer science departments at the time they were created. Besides, they have a much "cleaner" design that would win the computer scientists esthetic preferences every time anyway.

Seems unlikely to be enforceable as "overly expansive", as someone could surely argue our brains are just AI and/or ML but in organic form. Does that mean I'm not allowed to learn from the website?

weird-eye-issue 4y ago

Are you aware of what the "A" in AI and the "M" in ML stand for?

capableweb 4y ago
No, I work in a field without having zero idea what the most basic terminology actually means. Are you aware what "organic" means? Have some imagination. We can call it OI and OL to make it a bit easier if you want.
- hgsgm 4y ago
  Did you know that different words have different meanings?
- weird-eye-issue 4y ago
  If you called something OI and OL then you wouldn't be referring to AI and ML. They would be different things. It's clearly big brain time for you...
- JohnFen 4y ago
  > Are you aware what "organic" means? I am, but I always get an argument when I tell certain people that "all food is organic", despite the fact that's technically correct.

lelanthran 4y ago

> as someone could surely argue our brains are just AI and/or ML but in organic form. Our brains are artificial intelligence? Humans are machine learning? I mean, c'mon. If humans are artificial, then what do you call real? If humans are machines, then what on earth isn't?

bombcar 4y ago
I could see an argument that a test tube baby might be something like a human created by artifice.
- nraynaud 4y ago
  good luck with that, it's pure natural DNA and pure natural gestation and pure old-school education. only the fecondation was provoked.

pxoe 4y ago

>someone could surely argue No, they could not. Even if they did, those things are just different. It won't change what AI/ML is, a bunch of bytes in memory and on a disk. Just making a bunch of reaching comparisons, won't absolve AI/ML of responsibility.

unosama 4y ago

Neural networks are modeled of human brains in some ways but the majority of AI is not and humans just anthropomorphize the results. Humans don't take in terabytes of data and spend hours fitting a multidimensional regression between labels and the raw data. We build logical connections to understand things over continued exposure. Just because AI "feels" human does not mean it approaches anything actually resembling a human mind. What holds us back from understanding this in the legal system is the fact that lawyers and judges are so technically illiterate.

marcosdumay 4y ago
> Neural networks are modeled of human brains in some ways Hum... Not really. They are modeled after our periferic nervous system. Detailed knowledge about the brain wasn't very available at computer science departments at the time they were created. Besides, they have a much "cleaner" design that would win the computer scientists esthetic preferences every time anyway.