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Using one single narrow criteria to completely disregard any & all other similarity is a shame & a sham. This is a huge disservice & actively harmful to underst

Using one single narrow criteria to completely disregard any & all other similarity is a shame & a sham. This is a huge disservice & actively harmful to understanding the world. I've said again and again microkernel-y microkernel-ish. But every single time I try to build a bridge & explain how it's similar but different, you burn it down. I think you have been poisoned by being too close to the subject matter & lack objective sensibility about the subject, are unable to adequately step back to actually understand. And you don't seem to have any interest in learning or trying to see, which is a crying shame. I feel like you as a deep practioner/academic of this area should be best able to help explain relationships & similarities, to see connections. But you focus only on making distance & setting things apart. That's just not good enough. It's not sufficient a viewpoint.

kortilla 4y ago
> Using one single narrow criteria to completely disregard any & all other similarity is a shame & a sham. This is a huge disservice & actively harmful to understanding the world. Just pick a different fucking word. Why do you want to use the term microkernel? It’s like insisting that a rock is actually and airplane because they both fly through the air. It’s a pointless redefinition and everyone qualified to talk about things that fly won’t call it an airplane and will be confused about what you’re talking about.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  It's not a redefinition when you add "-like" at the end. If I say a particular airplane flies like a rock, nobody needs to clarify that airplanes are not rocks. But please refer back to the original comment. rektide said it was "un-monolithic", which it is. A virtual machine is less monolithic than baked-in code. Softirq is the one who brought up microkernels specifically. Softirq is the one that repeatedly steered the conversation back to monokernel versus microkernel. If you put words in someone's mouth repeatedly until they start using them, you lose the right to complain that they're using the wrong words! "Why do you want to use the term microkernel?" is the exact opposite of what happened.

kortilla 4y ago

> Using one single narrow criteria to completely disregard any & all other similarity is a shame & a sham. This is a huge disservice & actively harmful to understanding the world. Just pick a different fucking word. Why do you want to use the term microkernel? It’s like insisting that a rock is actually and airplane because they both fly through the air. It’s a pointless redefinition and everyone qualified to talk about things that fly won’t call it an airplane and will be confused about what you’re talking about.

Dylan16807 4y ago
It's not a redefinition when you add "-like" at the end. If I say a particular airplane flies like a rock, nobody needs to clarify that airplanes are not rocks. But please refer back to the original comment. rektide said it was "un-monolithic", which it is. A virtual machine is less monolithic than baked-in code. Softirq is the one who brought up microkernels specifically. Softirq is the one that repeatedly steered the conversation back to monokernel versus microkernel. If you put words in someone's mouth repeatedly until they start using them, you lose the right to complain that they're using the wrong words! "Why do you want to use the term microkernel?" is the exact opposite of what happened.