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You need ID going from NI to Britain so he may have used his passport for that.

hanoz 3y ago
You do not.
scott_w 3y ago
No, you don’t. Northern Ireland is part of the U.K. so it would be like asking for a passport to travel from Berwick to Eyemouth. I’ve been on this ferry trip post-Brexit and the only thing the border police are interested in is whether a dissident planted a bomb under your car when you weren’t looking.
- netsharc 3y ago
  https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/ireland_and_the_uk/common_travel_area_between_ireland_and_the_uk.html https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/... The language says "may" and "should". You have to be a citizen of Ireland or the UK, and they may ask you to prove that you are. And if you're neither, you have to have a passport, but the checks may happen, or (more likely) they won't happen. So, do you need ID as grandparent poster said, or "you don't", as you claim? The answer is... it depends. Mostly it depends whether there are checks or not. Technically I could've driven the last several thousand miles of my driving "career" without my driver's license, but legally, I could've been stopped and been asked to present it.
  - scott_w 3y ago
    You're reading an Irish website about "government in Ireland" to try and interpret UK law. Ireland is not a part of the UK or vice versa. In the UK, you do not need to present ID at any point to travel within the UK. As per the Good Friday Agreement, this extends to the island of Ireland. In other words, you do not need to provide ID to travel between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. If you drive up the N1 / A1 dual carriageway (the main road between Dublin and Belfast), you'll see for yourself. And on your driving license comment: in the UK, you do not need to carry your driving license with you at all. Traffic police are not going to stop you just to check you have one. Ever.
    - disgruntledphd2 3y ago
      Note that this has been the case for an incredibly long time, under the common travel area. However, I suspect that this may change at some point, once the UK introduces their ESTA like scheme.
      - scott_w 3y ago
        > Note that this has been the case for an incredibly long time, under the common travel area. That's correct. > However, I suspect that this may change at some point, once the UK introduces their ESTA like scheme. No. It won't. That would violate the Good Friday Agreement.
        disgruntledphd2 3y ago
        For non Irish/UK citizens there will 100% be checks for passports and visa on ferries at the very least.
        scott_w 3y ago
        No, there simply won't. Your scenario makes no sense whatsoever. How do you "only" check non-UK/Irish citizens? Do you listen for their accent? Do you go by skin colour? There will be no checks between Belfast/Stranraer just as there are no checks between Carlisle/Glasgow.
        disgruntledphd2 3y ago
        Well either the UK give up their current visa requirements (the proposed ESTA analogy) or there will have to be. Here's an Irish Times article about the issue: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/03/09/uk-amends-visa-waiver-plans-for-non-irish-eu-citizens-crossing-border/ https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/03/09/uk-amends-vis... Looks like they've fixed the EU citizens living in Ireland crossing the border for work issue, thankfully.

You do not.

No, you don’t. Northern Ireland is part of the U.K. so it would be like asking for a passport to travel from Berwick to Eyemouth. I’ve been on this ferry trip post-Brexit and the only thing the border police are interested in is whether a dissident planted a bomb under your car when you weren’t looking.

netsharc 3y ago
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/ireland_and_the_uk/common_travel_area_between_ireland_and_the_uk.html https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/... The language says "may" and "should". You have to be a citizen of Ireland or the UK, and they may ask you to prove that you are. And if you're neither, you have to have a passport, but the checks may happen, or (more likely) they won't happen. So, do you need ID as grandparent poster said, or "you don't", as you claim? The answer is... it depends. Mostly it depends whether there are checks or not. Technically I could've driven the last several thousand miles of my driving "career" without my driver's license, but legally, I could've been stopped and been asked to present it.
- scott_w 3y ago
  You're reading an Irish website about "government in Ireland" to try and interpret UK law. Ireland is not a part of the UK or vice versa. In the UK, you do not need to present ID at any point to travel within the UK. As per the Good Friday Agreement, this extends to the island of Ireland. In other words, you do not need to provide ID to travel between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. If you drive up the N1 / A1 dual carriageway (the main road between Dublin and Belfast), you'll see for yourself. And on your driving license comment: in the UK, you do not need to carry your driving license with you at all. Traffic police are not going to stop you just to check you have one. Ever.
  - disgruntledphd2 3y ago
    Note that this has been the case for an incredibly long time, under the common travel area. However, I suspect that this may change at some point, once the UK introduces their ESTA like scheme.
    - scott_w 3y ago
      > Note that this has been the case for an incredibly long time, under the common travel area. That's correct. > However, I suspect that this may change at some point, once the UK introduces their ESTA like scheme. No. It won't. That would violate the Good Friday Agreement.
      - disgruntledphd2 3y ago
        For non Irish/UK citizens there will 100% be checks for passports and visa on ferries at the very least.
        scott_w 3y ago
        No, there simply won't. Your scenario makes no sense whatsoever. How do you "only" check non-UK/Irish citizens? Do you listen for their accent? Do you go by skin colour? There will be no checks between Belfast/Stranraer just as there are no checks between Carlisle/Glasgow.
        disgruntledphd2 3y ago
        Well either the UK give up their current visa requirements (the proposed ESTA analogy) or there will have to be. Here's an Irish Times article about the issue: https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/03/09/uk-amends-visa-waiver-plans-for-non-irish-eu-citizens-crossing-border/ https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/03/09/uk-amends-vis... Looks like they've fixed the EU citizens living in Ireland crossing the border for work issue, thankfully.