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Last activity in the repository shows today for me. Why do you think it is dead?

by adminu 3y ago

thaumasiotes 3y ago
A while ago youtube-dl broke and wasn't fixed. yt-dlp fixed the problem. Granted, I haven't kept up on whether original youtube-dl eventually got around to getting its primary functionality to work. The several-month interregnum that definitely occurred seems like a good reason to consider it "dead".
- bharathyes 3y ago
  Not sure which problem you refer to but it is an active repo that has worked well for the past few months atleast.
  - thaumasiotes 3y ago
    > Not sure which problem you refer to It stopped being able to download videos from youtube. That's not the only functionality, but -- given the name of the software -- I'd say it should have been fixed. All the repo activity in the world won't balance out the inability to do the only thing you advertise that you can do.
  - Larrikin 3y ago
    Have you tried yt-dlp? I remember what made me switch. YouTube downloading didn't break, but became extremely slow when compared to my actual network speeds. YouTube seems to do something to fuck with the speeds every so often. yt-dlp is quick to hop on those issues.
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- noirscape 3y ago
  It's been fixed but the new maintainer refuses to release a new version until someone manages to help him figure out how to get automated builds running (which seems to have been the problem for the past year and he refuses to just do a manual build so that youtube-dl at least works with YouTube). yt-dlp is a better maintained fork.
defrost 3y ago
The last official release was 2021.12.17. The I can't believe it's not youtube-dl quasi unofficial fork yt-dlp has a most recent stable release 2023.03.04 (last month). Of the two one is keeping up with the month by month twists and turns of websites altering their video embed methodologies to defeat CLI rippers .. and the other one isn't.
- bharathyes 3y ago
  both their release cycles and what they consider as stable might differ and not necessarily mean one is better. yt-dlp still claims to keep track with the parent project. Most would use it for the additional functionalities it provides over youtube-dl.
  - sli 3y ago
    ytp-dl is also many, many times faster than the original, in my experience. youtube-dl is almost unusable for mass downloading by comparison.
  - defrost 3y ago
    There is much much more to the code base than simply youtube ripping, both can (in theory) also rip from (say) ABC Australia's iView, from the Royal Institute Christmas Lecture series, from redtube, etc (hundreds and hundreds of variations of websites). That shim layer between the core ripping engine(s) and the manifold ways of embedding access to a stream is what is being kept current in yt-dlp releases (and -U updates). Original most recent official youtube-dl (December 2021 release) can no longer find its update service.
  - thaumasiotes 3y ago
    > both their release cycles and what they consider as stable might differ and not necessarily mean one is better. You're making it very difficult to take you seriously. Have you actually used youtube-dl?
anenefan 3y ago
youtube-dl only works for some people around the globe, as youtube is apparently running A/B testing. Yeah there's a sort of fix ... that's been tucked away at github by way of go nowhere link, but there's the given idea it's time to ditch the cheap computer or online server and try and get something else to run instead. I read that sort of sentiment as that yup it's probably dead and maybe time to move onto more expensive toys that programmers really give a fuck, well that year ... or just ignore youtube for the time being. It's sad because what I generally viewed on youtube was of no interest to the music industry.
probably_wrong 3y ago
For the sake of testing, I just downloaded youtube-dl from Github [1]. I then tried to run the program, but it failed with: /usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory Okay, the script can't deal with "python" vs "python3", whatever - I'll change the script's first line and move on. Next attempt: $ youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pV8WFvSNYE [youtube] 5pV8WFvSNYE: Downloading webpage ERROR: Unable to extract uploader id; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug. Make sure you are using the latest version; type youtube-dl -U to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output. I knew I would get this error because I got it two weeks ago already. And considering that the version number is `2021.12.17` that looks suspiciously close to a dead project, or at least for a project whose very description is "download videos from youtube.com or other video platforms". Edit: I went through the repo and found that this bug has been reported two months ago [2]. I understand that the project is not dead in the sense that they are still looking at bugs, but if a major feature is not working for two months now then I think it's reasonable for people's faith in the project's future to be shaken. [1] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl#installation https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl#installation [2] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/31530 https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/31530
- blueflow 3y ago
  I think if you have python installed but no 'python' executable in PATH, your install is broken.
  - pasc1878 3y ago
    No the issue is that python on its own meant python2 for a long time and there are still distributions still using python2 I you need python3 the you need to put python3 in the shebang
  - noselasd 3y ago
    That depends on who "you" are. Linux distros these days tend to ship modern python package with a python3 executable, no python executable. Many distros still support a python2 package, some install that as a python exeutable, some as a python2 executable. iirc. homebrew on OSX installs python as a python3 executable, no python exeutable. Hopefully no-one should support python v2 in 2023 ?

Last activity in the repository shows today for me. Why do you think it is dead?

by adminu 3y ago

Last activity in the repository shows today for me. Why do you think it is dead?

A while ago youtube-dl broke and wasn't fixed. yt-dlp fixed the problem. Granted, I haven't kept up on whether original youtube-dl eventually got around to getting its primary functionality to work. The several-month interregnum that definitely occurred seems like a good reason to consider it "dead".

bharathyes 3y ago
Not sure which problem you refer to but it is an active repo that has worked well for the past few months atleast.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  > Not sure which problem you refer to It stopped being able to download videos from youtube. That's not the only functionality, but -- given the name of the software -- I'd say it should have been fixed. All the repo activity in the world won't balance out the inability to do the only thing you advertise that you can do.
- Larrikin 3y ago
  Have you tried yt-dlp? I remember what made me switch. YouTube downloading didn't break, but became extremely slow when compared to my actual network speeds. YouTube seems to do something to fuck with the speeds every so often. yt-dlp is quick to hop on those issues.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
noirscape 3y ago
It's been fixed but the new maintainer refuses to release a new version until someone manages to help him figure out how to get automated builds running (which seems to have been the problem for the past year and he refuses to just do a manual build so that youtube-dl at least works with YouTube). yt-dlp is a better maintained fork.

defrost 3y ago

The last official release was 2021.12.17. The I can't believe it's not youtube-dl quasi unofficial fork yt-dlp has a most recent stable release 2023.03.04 (last month). Of the two one is keeping up with the month by month twists and turns of websites altering their video embed methodologies to defeat CLI rippers .. and the other one isn't.

bharathyes 3y ago
both their release cycles and what they consider as stable might differ and not necessarily mean one is better. yt-dlp still claims to keep track with the parent project. Most would use it for the additional functionalities it provides over youtube-dl.
- sli 3y ago
  ytp-dl is also many, many times faster than the original, in my experience. youtube-dl is almost unusable for mass downloading by comparison.
- defrost 3y ago
  There is much much more to the code base than simply youtube ripping, both can (in theory) also rip from (say) ABC Australia's iView, from the Royal Institute Christmas Lecture series, from redtube, etc (hundreds and hundreds of variations of websites). That shim layer between the core ripping engine(s) and the manifold ways of embedding access to a stream is what is being kept current in yt-dlp releases (and -U updates). Original most recent official youtube-dl (December 2021 release) can no longer find its update service.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  > both their release cycles and what they consider as stable might differ and not necessarily mean one is better. You're making it very difficult to take you seriously. Have you actually used youtube-dl?

anenefan 3y ago

youtube-dl only works for some people around the globe, as youtube is apparently running A/B testing. Yeah there's a sort of fix ... that's been tucked away at github by way of go nowhere link, but there's the given idea it's time to ditch the cheap computer or online server and try and get something else to run instead. I read that sort of sentiment as that yup it's probably dead and maybe time to move onto more expensive toys that programmers really give a fuck, well that year ... or just ignore youtube for the time being. It's sad because what I generally viewed on youtube was of no interest to the music industry.

probably_wrong 3y ago

For the sake of testing, I just downloaded youtube-dl from Github [1]. I then tried to run the program, but it failed with: /usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory Okay, the script can't deal with "python" vs "python3", whatever - I'll change the script's first line and move on. Next attempt: $ youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pV8WFvSNYE [youtube] 5pV8WFvSNYE: Downloading webpage ERROR: Unable to extract uploader id; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug. Make sure you are using the latest version; type youtube-dl -U to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output. I knew I would get this error because I got it two weeks ago already. And considering that the version number is `2021.12.17` that looks suspiciously close to a dead project, or at least for a project whose very description is "download videos from youtube.com or other video platforms". Edit: I went through the repo and found that this bug has been reported two months ago [2]. I understand that the project is not dead in the sense that they are still looking at bugs, but if a major feature is not working for two months now then I think it's reasonable for people's faith in the project's future to be shaken. [1] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl#installation https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl#installation [2] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/31530 https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/31530

blueflow 3y ago
I think if you have python installed but no 'python' executable in PATH, your install is broken.
- pasc1878 3y ago
  No the issue is that python on its own meant python2 for a long time and there are still distributions still using python2 I you need python3 the you need to put python3 in the shebang
- noselasd 3y ago
  That depends on who "you" are. Linux distros these days tend to ship modern python package with a python3 executable, no python executable. Many distros still support a python2 package, some install that as a python exeutable, some as a python2 executable. iirc. homebrew on OSX installs python as a python3 executable, no python exeutable. Hopefully no-one should support python v2 in 2023 ?