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British Columbia's New Powers to Silence Dissenting Physicians
- VagueMag 4y ago"Why Did So Many Doctors Become Nazis?": https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/history/articles/fernandes-doctors-who-became-nazis https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/history/articles/fernande...
- burner13344 4y agoCOVID broke Canada
- dr_kretyn 4y agoDidn't know what Orthomolecular Medicine means. Sorry, but that adds a cup of scepticism to the text and requires more reference tracking that I can afford. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine
- scj 4y agoTo add further skepticism, "Brian Peckford, former Premier of Newfoundland, disagrees. He is the last surviving member of the group that drew up Canada's Charter of Rights." is a massive red flag. 1. Chretien was much more instrumental to the authorship of the Charter, and is checks CBC as he's kind of old still alive. 2. That "qualification" is meaningless. It's trying to imply Canadian constitutionalism has original intent, which it doesn't (we use a living document philosophy). So a non-applicable appeal to authority.
- spondylosaurus 4y agoDoesn't help that the one concrete example of "dissent" in the text itself is about covid vaccines, which afaik are pretty much a settled issue in terms of safety and efficacy.
- VagueMag 4y agoSafety and efficacy for whom? Numerous European countries have already begun significantly dialing back the demographic groups to whom they are recommending booster shots, so I'd say it's looking pretty unsettled.
- op00to 4y agoBase your statements in repeatable, peer reviewed scientific fact and no one gets hurt.
- VagueMag 4y agoWhat about the case where new, largely untested therapies are being pushed on the public before they have even been around long enough for peer reviewed data on their long-term effects to become available, and the only peer-reviewed data on their short-term effects comes from trials run by the manufacturers themselves?
- spondylosaurus 4y agoBy "untested therapies," are you referring to a medical technology that's existed for several hundred years?
- VagueMag 4y agoI had in mind PEG-coated-mRNA and adenovirus vaccines which cause the body's own cells to express a close analog to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein antigen, a thoroughly novel approach which was rolled out to the general public roughly nine months after the very first tests were administered in humans, and in the case of mRNA vaccines more broadly, was described in articles as late as 2017 as potentially having problems with toxicity especially in repeat dosing.
- op00to 4y agoYou’re basically saying that we should not trust the internal combustion engine because Ford released a new model car.
- VagueMag 4y agoA horrendously uninformed comparison. It's extremely tedious to still be reading this Pfizer/FDA copypasta at this point. It's more like if Ford wanted to release a car with some kind of completely new engine or propulsion type while having done almost no safety testing at all. And if, at the same time, they were telling you, "this is just like every other car we've ever made, what's the big deal?" it would be as good of a hint that they were hiding something as it turned out to be in the case of the mRNA vaccines. Even in the case of traditional vaccines, it was generally expected pre-Covid that years of testing would be undergone before a rollout to the general public, so even putting aside the question of novelty, the more apt comparison would still be something like "Ford pushes out a new model car with a significant body redesign while doing a bare fraction of the usual crash safety tests."
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- dukeofdoom 4y agoCanadian doctors are routinely killing people, through the MAID program. Hospital are underfunded, and Shortages of staff, and lack of MRI machines are killing people who still want to live. 9 hour wait times in emergency rooms, pretty common.
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- fwungy 4y agoWould could possibly go wrong?
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- VagueMag 4y agoDefinitely a good heuristic for deciding whether to support a particular piece of legislation, one which will surely never come a cropper in spectacular fashion.
- phmqk76 4y agoThis argument is bad faith - there is a hugely important public health imperative for doctors not to peddle quackery. COVID disinformation led to a staggering loss of life, and no doctor should be permitted to participate.
- trentnix 4y agoSure, but eventually the “public health imperative” demands they all peddle quackery. And your comment that “COVID disinformation led to a staggering loss of life” is disinformation itself.
- VagueMag 4y agoWhat "disinformation which led to staggering loss of life" do you have in mind, specifically? The vast majority of high risk groups for SARS-CoV-2 were fully vaccinated very soon after vaccines were made available, so (assuming their protective benefits were actually all they have been cracked up to be) there couldn't have been some huge impact of "disinformation" there. There also couldn't have been a "staggering" additional loss of life in the less vaccinated lower risk groups because COVID wasn't a particularly lethal threat to them in the first place. And the vaccines had marginal-to-zero ability to reduce infection so any question of lost herd immunity is out the window. Is there something else I'm not thinking of that you have in mind?
- Bran_son 4y agoBut such laws make things worse. Now, when doctors claim something is safe, they can be dismissed with "they'd go to jail if they claimed otherwise".
- xer0x 4y agoCan you trust anything? This article is odd.
- j16sdiz 4y agoI think the government have enough (just right) power thru public funding. Giving them extra power to mandate doctor what to do is not right.
- stackedinserter 4y agoWhy on earth this is flagged?