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If they cared about the metaverse then they'd be dogfooding it and insisting all meetings happen there.

jayd16 4y ago
I'm sure they do dogfood but insisting every meeting is in VR is like banning the command line while working on an unfinished GUI OS. It's also not a realistic dogfood either. Users are not going to be fully in VR so why dogfood that way? It's better to figure out what flexible and low friction workflows.
- smeagull 3y ago
  I mean - this is the obvious conclusion. Because the metaverse is a stupid idea. Nobody needs the full VR movie theatre when they can go to youtube quicker and easier. If they received push back from dogfooding, that just means they need to knock those sharp corners off. I'd suggest what they want is a meeting application and making VR easy to put on and off, and combining the two worlds. It's entirely realistic to dogfood here, people are just reacting to the obvious reactions from the first iteration. You don't stop there though.
johannes1234321 4y ago
They tried. But employees apparently rebelled. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/6/23391895/meta-facebook-horizon-worlds-vr-social-network-too-buggy-leaked-memo https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/6/23391895/meta-facebook-ho...
- roland35 4y ago
  I personally like VR meetings but there is still too much friction versus how quick it is to start up a video call. In my opinion larger meetings do work worse in video calls. It just isn't great having lots of small squares. But small <4 people meetings do work better when you can really see and pay attention to every clearly.
- api 4y ago
  Their metaverse sucked and nobody wanted to use it.
  - coredog64 4y ago
    You can’t kick ideas around without legs.
    - DonHopkins 4y ago
      You've talked the talk, now walk the ... oops. Never mind.
erinnh 4y ago
IIRC, they tried to mandate that some quota of meetings needed to happen there. But it wasnt very popular. I think it was this or around that time: https://futurism.com/the-byte/leaked-memo-facebook-metaverse https://futurism.com/the-byte/leaked-memo-facebook-metaverse
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I'm sure they do dogfood but insisting every meeting is in VR is like banning the command line while working on an unfinished GUI OS. It's also not a realistic dogfood either. Users are not going to be fully in VR so why dogfood that way? It's better to figure out what flexible and low friction workflows.

smeagull 3y ago
I mean - this is the obvious conclusion. Because the metaverse is a stupid idea. Nobody needs the full VR movie theatre when they can go to youtube quicker and easier. If they received push back from dogfooding, that just means they need to knock those sharp corners off. I'd suggest what they want is a meeting application and making VR easy to put on and off, and combining the two worlds. It's entirely realistic to dogfood here, people are just reacting to the obvious reactions from the first iteration. You don't stop there though.

johannes1234321 4y ago

They tried. But employees apparently rebelled. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/6/23391895/meta-facebook-horizon-worlds-vr-social-network-too-buggy-leaked-memo https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/6/23391895/meta-facebook-ho...

roland35 4y ago
I personally like VR meetings but there is still too much friction versus how quick it is to start up a video call. In my opinion larger meetings do work worse in video calls. It just isn't great having lots of small squares. But small <4 people meetings do work better when you can really see and pay attention to every clearly.
api 4y ago
Their metaverse sucked and nobody wanted to use it.
- coredog64 4y ago
  You can’t kick ideas around without legs.
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    You've talked the talk, now walk the ... oops. Never mind.

erinnh 4y ago

IIRC, they tried to mandate that some quota of meetings needed to happen there. But it wasnt very popular. I think it was this or around that time: https://futurism.com/the-byte/leaked-memo-facebook-metaverse https://futurism.com/the-byte/leaked-memo-facebook-metaverse

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