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I have way more faith in the oath made to a real principle than a made up one. I haven't read the book in question but am familiar with the picture with the sam
by Beltiras 4y ago
I have way more faith in the oath made to a real principle than a made up one. I haven't read the book in question but am familiar with the picture with the same name and Sagan's works. Someone that chooses to make an oath to something that is essentially meaningless except for itself is in my opinion way less likely to break that oath.
- MarkPNeyer 4y agoCan you give an example of a principle that isn’t made up?
- Beltiras 4y agoI suppose that's an inaccurate choice of words. I meant to juxtapose something meaningful to someone in stead of the Skygod that the Christians pretend to worship on Sundays.
- docandrew 4y agoPlease don’t denigrate others’ faith here.
- Beltiras 4y agoI'm saying it's mostly performative. I can't denigrate something that actually doesn't exist.
- klodolph 4y agoYou said, “the Skygod that the Christians pretend to worship on Sundays”. This comment is uncivil and does not belong here. That behavior is not acceptable and please do not behave this way in the future. To be clear, the comment denigrates Christians, by (among other things) saying that they pretend to worship.
- Beltiras 4y agoIf you don't call out the hypocrites, how would they ever know they are wrong? Did I cast them in a negative light? Yes. Do they ever read that book of theirs? No. Once in a while you see a shining example of compassion and generosity born from church activities like this one: https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1645867657697153046 https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1645867657697153046 That's the true Christian faith at work. Sadly it's the exception.
- klodolph 4y agoYour comment seems to be based on some kind of misconception about what religion is. Like, you seem to base your comments on the idea that the Christian bible is the sole foundation for Christian beliefs and practices. There are two problems with that—it’s not true in the first place, and even if it were true, it is not straightforward to interpret the bible. If you are unwilling to put in the effort to learn what Christianity is, then you should also be unwilling to make comments about whether people are practicing it correctly.
- Beltiras 4y agoBorn raised and confirmed in Lutheran Christianity. Go project on someone else.
- klodolph 4y agoI’m responding to your comment, which seems to be based on misconceptions. If you have a working understanding of what religion is, it is not reflected in your comment. Or maybe I misunderstand the comment—you could elaborate what you mean. I don’t think people who are raised Christianity are taught what Christianity is, so it doesn’t surprise me that you’re born, raised, & confirmed. People who are born and raised Christian are generally taught how to practice Christianity, and that instruction is tailored to their specific sect. They are not (typically) taught what Christianity is, especially other sects, because it is not really relevant to the practice of Christianity (this is not a judgment, I think it’s fine). I would expect people to learn what Christianity is if they went to seminary (depending, some seminaries don’t) or if they studied religion in college. It is only through a misconception of religion that the accusation of pretense really stands. “These people aren’t really Christians, they are just pretending” is an old chestnut that has started enough wars; it is long past time to disabuse people of the misunderstandings that lead to those accusations in the first place.