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Can you match it to half or a quarter of the frequency?

dalmo3 4y ago
Not OP, but same problem. Interesting suggestion!
kadoban 4y ago
Is there some kind of resonance or something that happens at half/quarter that lets you identify it? I experimented real quick and wasn't able to do a great job estimating half of a frequency from playing with the slider on the lower one. Wasn't _totally_ off, but nothing magical seemed to happen when I got to half.
- adzm 4y ago
  Can you tune a guitar? I can hear it when the frequencies become small integer proportions like the octave (2x) and the fifth
  - kadoban 4y ago
    I suppose I've never tried. Maybe it just requires some practice.
adzm 4y ago
You can actually hear the beat frequencies like tuning a guitar. So intervals like the fifth or an octave are definitely 'in tune' when you try it. Interestingly if you play a pure sine in each ear with one slightly detuned, your brain will also hear the beat frequencies as if the waves were interfering despite each ear getting separate pure signals! There was even an open source program Gnaural for experimenting with this effect - binaural beats.
- dahart 4y ago
  I can’t hear a beat frequency against my tinnitus tones, and I really wish I could. (I’ve tuned my guitar with beat frequencies for decades.) The tinnitus tones are very elusive when I try to pin them down with a sine wave, but I can get close by alternating a sine wave on and off while I vary the frequency... the memory of the tone from a second ago has been more reliable than trying to hear if they’re close when overlapping.
lisper 4y ago
Interesting suggestion. But no, I don't think so, and I'm having a really hard time describing why. It sounds like a pure sine wave, but it's so high I have a hard time relating it to any real auditory input. Also, interestingly, since I started focusing on this it has gotten less intense.
- IIAOPSW 4y ago
  How high does your range of hearing go. We can at least narrow it down to somewhere above that.
  - lisper 4y ago
    Just under 8kHz. The tinnitus frequency seems like its about about a major fifth higher, so ~12kHz. I also notice in general that it's much more pronounced after I've been wearing earbuds, even if the volume is turned way down.
    - IIAOPSW 4y ago
      Jeez you're range of hearing is capital F Fucked. Did you go to school next to an airport and live backstage at a heavy metal concert? No disrespect.
      - lisper 4y ago
        No, but I'm 58 years old. Hearing loss is just a Thing That Happens sometimes.
        IIAOPSW 4y ago
        Remind me to avoid getting old.
        lisper 4y ago
        Damn, why didn't I write myself a note?

Not OP, but same problem. Interesting suggestion!

Is there some kind of resonance or something that happens at half/quarter that lets you identify it? I experimented real quick and wasn't able to do a great job estimating half of a frequency from playing with the slider on the lower one. Wasn't _totally_ off, but nothing magical seemed to happen when I got to half.

adzm 4y ago
Can you tune a guitar? I can hear it when the frequencies become small integer proportions like the octave (2x) and the fifth
- kadoban 4y ago
  I suppose I've never tried. Maybe it just requires some practice.

adzm 4y ago

You can actually hear the beat frequencies like tuning a guitar. So intervals like the fifth or an octave are definitely 'in tune' when you try it. Interestingly if you play a pure sine in each ear with one slightly detuned, your brain will also hear the beat frequencies as if the waves were interfering despite each ear getting separate pure signals! There was even an open source program Gnaural for experimenting with this effect - binaural beats.

dahart 4y ago
I can’t hear a beat frequency against my tinnitus tones, and I really wish I could. (I’ve tuned my guitar with beat frequencies for decades.) The tinnitus tones are very elusive when I try to pin them down with a sine wave, but I can get close by alternating a sine wave on and off while I vary the frequency... the memory of the tone from a second ago has been more reliable than trying to hear if they’re close when overlapping.

lisper 4y ago

Interesting suggestion. But no, I don't think so, and I'm having a really hard time describing why. It sounds like a pure sine wave, but it's so high I have a hard time relating it to any real auditory input. Also, interestingly, since I started focusing on this it has gotten less intense.

IIAOPSW 4y ago
How high does your range of hearing go. We can at least narrow it down to somewhere above that.
- lisper 4y ago
  Just under 8kHz. The tinnitus frequency seems like its about about a major fifth higher, so ~12kHz. I also notice in general that it's much more pronounced after I've been wearing earbuds, even if the volume is turned way down.
  - IIAOPSW 4y ago
    Jeez you're range of hearing is capital F Fucked. Did you go to school next to an airport and live backstage at a heavy metal concert? No disrespect.
    - lisper 4y ago
      No, but I'm 58 years old. Hearing loss is just a Thing That Happens sometimes.
      - IIAOPSW 4y ago
        Remind me to avoid getting old.
        lisper 4y ago
        Damn, why didn't I write myself a note?