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Will this hurt the reputation of Australian universities? If so, won’t it deter future international students from enrolling?

malshe 4y ago
I am speculating here but perhaps international students use the university degrees to get jobs in Australia.
- 4dayworkweek4u 4y ago
  It's an excuse for immigration.
stubish 4y ago
If the Universities bent too far surviving COVID and ongoing tensions with China, they may have slaughtered their golden goose. But the underlying issues have been well known for decades. The existential threat has always been that Australian universities will never be as prestigious as the big name British and American institutions, and what the students are really paying for is prestige. You don't study here if you can afford Oxford or Cambridge or Yale or MIT. And with online learning, those brand names are becoming more affordable.
- chii 4y ago
  > what the students are really paying for is prestige. what the students are really paying for is a chance at PR in australia.
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  - stubish 4y ago
    How does this work these days? Many years ago, international students had to leave the country after they graduated and their visa expired, and apply for PR like any other alien. And any recognized degree as good as another. But I'm a few decades out of date.
    - donavanm 4y ago
      I havent followed it recently myself, but immediately after undergrad its a 18-24 month “post study” visa. Then either a grad program or sponsored work visa. And at that point you should have the 3 yrs in australia to qualify for PR. ISTR that during covid the work restrictions were removed from student visas as well, though that doesnt matter much to the subset of students buying multi million dollar properties.
      - mmerlin 4y ago
        Like this one the other day... $5.1MM https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/student-buys-51-million-home-in-melbourne-004807002.html https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/student-buys-51-million-ho...

malshe 4y ago

I am speculating here but perhaps international students use the university degrees to get jobs in Australia.

4dayworkweek4u 4y ago
It's an excuse for immigration.

stubish 4y ago

If the Universities bent too far surviving COVID and ongoing tensions with China, they may have slaughtered their golden goose. But the underlying issues have been well known for decades. The existential threat has always been that Australian universities will never be as prestigious as the big name British and American institutions, and what the students are really paying for is prestige. You don't study here if you can afford Oxford or Cambridge or Yale or MIT. And with online learning, those brand names are becoming more affordable.

chii 4y ago
> what the students are really paying for is prestige. what the students are really paying for is a chance at PR in australia.
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- stubish 4y ago
  How does this work these days? Many years ago, international students had to leave the country after they graduated and their visa expired, and apply for PR like any other alien. And any recognized degree as good as another. But I'm a few decades out of date.
  - donavanm 4y ago
    I havent followed it recently myself, but immediately after undergrad its a 18-24 month “post study” visa. Then either a grad program or sponsored work visa. And at that point you should have the 3 yrs in australia to qualify for PR. ISTR that during covid the work restrictions were removed from student visas as well, though that doesnt matter much to the subset of students buying multi million dollar properties.
    - mmerlin 4y ago
      Like this one the other day... $5.1MM https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/student-buys-51-million-home-in-melbourne-004807002.html https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/student-buys-51-million-ho...