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The fact Mastodon sites don't even load without JS is absurd, a huge not-talked-about barrier to entry (globally), and a betrayal of its "protocol-first" talkin

by Andrex 4y ago

The fact Mastodon sites don't even load without JS is absurd, a huge not-talked-about barrier to entry (globally), and a betrayal of its "protocol-first" talking points. Until that changes Mastodon isn't trying to be a serious player.

commoner 4y ago
Brutaldon is an alternative FOSS client for Mastodon that does not use JavaScript: - Brutaldon: https://brutaldon.org https://brutaldon.org - Source: https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon Because Mastodon has an open API, you don't need to use the official Mastodon web client. Twitter upset a lot of users when it limited access to its API because many alternative Twitter clients were rendered useless.
IshKebab 4y ago
Does Twitter load without JavaScript? I do not think the tiny number of uber-nerds who disable JavaScript have any effect on Mastadon.
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  I disable Javascript on occasion to save power. Twitter definitely does not load without loading several megabytes of Javascript. Nitter.net is a quick and easy substitute that loads instantly without it, though some video playback still requires Javascript (HLS video).
  - rybar 4y ago
    How much power have you quantified saving by disabling JavaScript over the course of a week?
    - jeroenhd 4y ago
      I can't do any objective measurements but there's a clear impact in battery life while browsing with Javascript disabled. The entire web becomes snappier and loading times instantly drop. Doing so also breaks all web applications (and web applications posing as websites, i.e. React rendering) so it's not something I turn on permanently. I usually only disable JS when my phone is running low and I'm not near a charger, or when I'm trying to read something and the terrible website hijacks scrolls/taps/somehow makes my phone run hot doing stuff in the background.
tiagod 4y ago
Huge? Globally? How many poeple do you reckon have JS disabled?

by Andrex 4y ago

commoner 4y ago

Brutaldon is an alternative FOSS client for Mastodon that does not use JavaScript: - Brutaldon: https://brutaldon.org https://brutaldon.org - Source: https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon Because Mastodon has an open API, you don't need to use the official Mastodon web client. Twitter upset a lot of users when it limited access to its API because many alternative Twitter clients were rendered useless.

IshKebab 4y ago

Does Twitter load without JavaScript? I do not think the tiny number of uber-nerds who disable JavaScript have any effect on Mastadon.

jeroenhd 4y ago
I disable Javascript on occasion to save power. Twitter definitely does not load without loading several megabytes of Javascript. Nitter.net is a quick and easy substitute that loads instantly without it, though some video playback still requires Javascript (HLS video).
- rybar 4y ago
  How much power have you quantified saving by disabling JavaScript over the course of a week?
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    I can't do any objective measurements but there's a clear impact in battery life while browsing with Javascript disabled. The entire web becomes snappier and loading times instantly drop. Doing so also breaks all web applications (and web applications posing as websites, i.e. React rendering) so it's not something I turn on permanently. I usually only disable JS when my phone is running low and I'm not near a charger, or when I'm trying to read something and the terrible website hijacks scrolls/taps/somehow makes my phone run hot doing stuff in the background.

tiagod 4y ago

Huge? Globally? How many poeple do you reckon have JS disabled?