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>What FSF should do is work stop the move to secure boot. Already there are Intel Laptops being created that will not allow us to replace Windows with Linux or

>What FSF should do is work stop the move to secure boot. Already there are Intel Laptops being created that will not allow us to replace Windows with Linux or a BSD. Can you provide an example or article? I have not yet encountered an intel platform that refuses to erase the secure boot keys. That being said, I would not be surprised.

jmclnx 4y ago
Let me google that for you https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=377054 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=377054 There was an article on a new lenovo model that you cannot install linux on, but to lazy to look for it. Quote from a lonk: >Lenovo says Microsoft requires they block Linux from booting on such PCs. ... ... >This has nothing to do with better security. It is simply about restricting consumer choice by making it more difficult to install something other than Microsoft Windows
- rascul 4y ago
  The claim was: > Already there are Intel Laptops being created that will not allow us to replace Windows with Linux or a BSD. The Linux Mint forum post includes this: > To be able to boot Linux on such PCs you need to either disable secure boot in the BIOS or you need to enable the "Allow Microsoft 3rd Party UEFI CA" option in the Security section of the BIOS. Then if you follow the link to the document from Lenovo: > Starting in 2022 for Secured-core PCs it is a Microsoft requirement for the 3rd Party Certificate to be disabled by default. This means that for any of these Lenovo platforms shipped with Windows preinstalled an extra step is needed to allow Linux to boot with secure boot enabled. Following that, Lenovo even gives instructions how to do it. So it seems clear to me that it's allowed and that this does not match the original claim.
- worg 4y ago
  From the same forum post: > To be able to boot Linux on such PCs you need to either disable secure boot in the BIOS or you need to enable the "Allow Microsoft 3rd Party UEFI CA" option in the Security section of the BIOS. it's not like they're blocking completely the ability to install Linux, anyone installing Linux should be able to follow those steps. Don't get me wrong I'm no Lenovo/MS fan but spreading FUD is not the way edit: formatting
  - the-smug-one 4y ago
    Sure, but that is essentially putting in a gate that will make Linux desktop never be anything but for hardcore users.

jmclnx 4y ago

Let me google that for you https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=377054 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=377054 There was an article on a new lenovo model that you cannot install linux on, but to lazy to look for it. Quote from a lonk: >Lenovo says Microsoft requires they block Linux from booting on such PCs. ... ... >This has nothing to do with better security. It is simply about restricting consumer choice by making it more difficult to install something other than Microsoft Windows

rascul 4y ago
The claim was: > Already there are Intel Laptops being created that will not allow us to replace Windows with Linux or a BSD. The Linux Mint forum post includes this: > To be able to boot Linux on such PCs you need to either disable secure boot in the BIOS or you need to enable the "Allow Microsoft 3rd Party UEFI CA" option in the Security section of the BIOS. Then if you follow the link to the document from Lenovo: > Starting in 2022 for Secured-core PCs it is a Microsoft requirement for the 3rd Party Certificate to be disabled by default. This means that for any of these Lenovo platforms shipped with Windows preinstalled an extra step is needed to allow Linux to boot with secure boot enabled. Following that, Lenovo even gives instructions how to do it. So it seems clear to me that it's allowed and that this does not match the original claim.
worg 4y ago
From the same forum post: > To be able to boot Linux on such PCs you need to either disable secure boot in the BIOS or you need to enable the "Allow Microsoft 3rd Party UEFI CA" option in the Security section of the BIOS. it's not like they're blocking completely the ability to install Linux, anyone installing Linux should be able to follow those steps. Don't get me wrong I'm no Lenovo/MS fan but spreading FUD is not the way edit: formatting
- the-smug-one 4y ago
  Sure, but that is essentially putting in a gate that will make Linux desktop never be anything but for hardcore users.