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> They both lost some weight, although the brother who was on the low-carb diet ended up virtually pre-diabetic. It's been known for decades (outside of the HN

> They both lost some weight, although the brother who was on the low-carb diet ended up virtually pre-diabetic. It's been known for decades (outside of the HN reality distortion field) that excess accumulation of intramyocellular lipids in skeletal muscle is the primary underlying mechanism driving Type 2 Diabetes, so that's pretty much the outcome you'd expect.

BigCryo 4y ago
So what are you saying ?? that that dietary fat interferes with the action of insulin and causes insulin resistance?
- amanaplanacanal 4y ago
  Nah. It’s not the dietary fat, it’s the excess fat in your body. Lose the extra fat in whatever way works for you.
  - BigCryo 4y ago
    Much easier said than done especially when it comes to keeping it off.. much much easier
    - amanaplanacanal 4y ago
      Oh yes, I know. Boy do I know.
- 876978095789789 4y ago
  Yes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/
jgalvez 4y ago
This.
fierro 4y ago
idk man, go look at the fasting glucose of anyone on keto and it's probably going to be below 90. Not sure where this claim is coming from. There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with low carb diets that can stick a CGM in their arm and show you this is just not true for them.
- 876978095789789 4y ago
  > There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with low carb diets There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with no-shellfish diets to manage their shellfish allergy; yet these people don't go around using words like "reversed" or "cured" in reference to their allergy, the way keto people do with insulin resistance. And most of those keto people having apparent success would fail an OGTT (a test that actually measures insulin sensitivity, unlike fasting BG/insulin or HbA1c) if they took one.
- lucidguppy 4y ago
  If I clock a bathtub with cement (insulin resistance) but I don't fill the tub with water (carbs) - then you won't get an overflowing bathtub (diabetes). If I have an unclogged bathtub (normal metabolism) - I can fill the tub quickly with water (a carbed up meal) with water and then it drains out. The problem is when you combine high fat with low fiber carbs (donuts, meat AND potatoes, cake, peanut butter) - you clog the tub and dump water into the tub. Low carb diets are associated with higher all cause mortality - and are not sustainable for the planet.

BigCryo 4y ago

So what are you saying ?? that that dietary fat interferes with the action of insulin and causes insulin resistance?

amanaplanacanal 4y ago
Nah. It’s not the dietary fat, it’s the excess fat in your body. Lose the extra fat in whatever way works for you.
- BigCryo 4y ago
  Much easier said than done especially when it comes to keeping it off.. much much easier
  - amanaplanacanal 4y ago
    Oh yes, I know. Boy do I know.
876978095789789 4y ago
Yes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/

jgalvez 4y ago

This.

fierro 4y ago

idk man, go look at the fasting glucose of anyone on keto and it's probably going to be below 90. Not sure where this claim is coming from. There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with low carb diets that can stick a CGM in their arm and show you this is just not true for them.

876978095789789 4y ago
> There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with low carb diets There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with no-shellfish diets to manage their shellfish allergy; yet these people don't go around using words like "reversed" or "cured" in reference to their allergy, the way keto people do with insulin resistance. And most of those keto people having apparent success would fail an OGTT (a test that actually measures insulin sensitivity, unlike fasting BG/insulin or HbA1c) if they took one.
lucidguppy 4y ago
If I clock a bathtub with cement (insulin resistance) but I don't fill the tub with water (carbs) - then you won't get an overflowing bathtub (diabetes). If I have an unclogged bathtub (normal metabolism) - I can fill the tub quickly with water (a carbed up meal) with water and then it drains out. The problem is when you combine high fat with low fiber carbs (donuts, meat AND potatoes, cake, peanut butter) - you clog the tub and dump water into the tub. Low carb diets are associated with higher all cause mortality - and are not sustainable for the planet.