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I remember a small experiment between two healthy identical twins who were both almost identically healthy. One went on a low carb diet and the other a low fat

I remember a small experiment between two healthy identical twins who were both almost identically healthy. One went on a low carb diet and the other a low fat diet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1f9g9Y1wm0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1f9g9Y1wm0 They both lost some weight, although the brother who was on the low-carb diet ended up virtually pre-diabetic.

pengaru 4y ago
> the brother who was on the low-carb diet ended up virtually pre-diabetic "Low-carb" dude removed all fruits and vegetables. He didn't do low-carb, he did no-carb - in his own words: "meat cheese eggs". The whole clip just reeks of b.s. though, neither of these guys would be getting air time if the results weren't click-bait controversy fodder. The b.s. incentives are clear.
mrleinad 4y ago
I didn't see any reference to the study, but from the first comment in that video it seems that the doctor said "his body would stop producing insulin" because his blood insulin levels were low? Doesn't sound right to me. [1]"Prediabetes happens when your blood glucose levels are higher than normal, but not high enough to be diagnosed as diabetes. Prediabetes usually occurs in people who already have some insulin resistance." So, it doesn't sound right that he would be pre-diabetic when his blood glucose levels would be low. Seems that doctor made the assumption that because his blood insulin was low, his body would just stop producing it at some point, and that's not how it works. [1]https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22206-insulin-resistance https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22206-insulin...
876978095789789 4y ago
> They both lost some weight, although the brother who was on the low-carb diet ended up virtually pre-diabetic. It's been known for decades (outside of the HN reality distortion field) that excess accumulation of intramyocellular lipids in skeletal muscle is the primary underlying mechanism driving Type 2 Diabetes, so that's pretty much the outcome you'd expect.
- BigCryo 4y ago
  So what are you saying ?? that that dietary fat interferes with the action of insulin and causes insulin resistance?
  - amanaplanacanal 4y ago
    Nah. It’s not the dietary fat, it’s the excess fat in your body. Lose the extra fat in whatever way works for you.
    - BigCryo 4y ago
      Much easier said than done especially when it comes to keeping it off.. much much easier
      - amanaplanacanal 4y ago
        Oh yes, I know. Boy do I know.
  - 876978095789789 4y ago
    Yes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/
- jgalvez 4y ago
  This.
- fierro 4y ago
  idk man, go look at the fasting glucose of anyone on keto and it's probably going to be below 90. Not sure where this claim is coming from. There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with low carb diets that can stick a CGM in their arm and show you this is just not true for them.
  - 876978095789789 4y ago

pengaru 4y ago

> the brother who was on the low-carb diet ended up virtually pre-diabetic "Low-carb" dude removed all fruits and vegetables. He didn't do low-carb, he did no-carb - in his own words: "meat cheese eggs". The whole clip just reeks of b.s. though, neither of these guys would be getting air time if the results weren't click-bait controversy fodder. The b.s. incentives are clear.

mrleinad 4y ago

I didn't see any reference to the study, but from the first comment in that video it seems that the doctor said "his body would stop producing insulin" because his blood insulin levels were low? Doesn't sound right to me. [1]"Prediabetes happens when your blood glucose levels are higher than normal, but not high enough to be diagnosed as diabetes. Prediabetes usually occurs in people who already have some insulin resistance." So, it doesn't sound right that he would be pre-diabetic when his blood glucose levels would be low. Seems that doctor made the assumption that because his blood insulin was low, his body would just stop producing it at some point, and that's not how it works. [1]https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22206-insulin-resistance https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22206-insulin...

876978095789789 4y ago

> They both lost some weight, although the brother who was on the low-carb diet ended up virtually pre-diabetic. It's been known for decades (outside of the HN reality distortion field) that excess accumulation of intramyocellular lipids in skeletal muscle is the primary underlying mechanism driving Type 2 Diabetes, so that's pretty much the outcome you'd expect.

BigCryo 4y ago
So what are you saying ?? that that dietary fat interferes with the action of insulin and causes insulin resistance?
- amanaplanacanal 4y ago
  Nah. It’s not the dietary fat, it’s the excess fat in your body. Lose the extra fat in whatever way works for you.
  - BigCryo 4y ago
    Much easier said than done especially when it comes to keeping it off.. much much easier
    - amanaplanacanal 4y ago
      Oh yes, I know. Boy do I know.
- 876978095789789 4y ago
  Yes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6602127/
jgalvez 4y ago
This.
fierro 4y ago
idk man, go look at the fasting glucose of anyone on keto and it's probably going to be below 90. Not sure where this claim is coming from. There's hundreds of thousands of people currently having success with low carb diets that can stick a CGM in their arm and show you this is just not true for them.
- 876978095789789 4y ago