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I would assume so. Meta’s ML/AI team is very strong, but they probably don’t have a comparable product offering to ChatGPT ready for public use. So instead, the
by bugglebeetle 4y ago
I would assume so. Meta’s ML/AI team is very strong, but they probably don’t have a comparable product offering to ChatGPT ready for public use. So instead, they bought themselves some time by letting the open source community run wild with a lesser model and eat into OpenAI’s moat.
- BulgarianIdiot 4y agoThey didn't leak it. Someone else did.
- blameitonme 4y agoI dont think theyre saying Meta AI leaked it, but they anticipated someone else will and still went ahead with it as they wanted the consequences.
- jjoonathan 4y agoIt's extremely common for a "leak" to actually be fully intentional, but the organization in question just wants plausible deniability to mitigate legal/political/popular blowback. In order to preserve plausible deniability, the leak will look genuine in all aspects that are easy to simulate. "Someone else did it" is easy to simulate. A better gauge would be to see if anyone is caught and punished. If so, it was probably a real leak.
- ericpauley 4y agoI think the key here is that, given the way that Meta distributed the model, a leak was inevitable. So while they may not have directly orchestrated a leak it must have been an intended result.
- greyface- 4y agoThey have tacitly endorsed the leak. https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73#issuecomment-1453872037 https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73#issuecomme...
- yieldcrv 4y agoOnly because publicly visible actions are worse for them People have gotten DMCA takedown requests from them over Llama repositories
- greyface- 4y agoIf they were interested in limiting distribution, saying essentially "go ahead and seed this torrent more" is worse for them than doing nothing.
- yieldcrv 4y agoI’ve actually beat the streisand effect before by not responding. The crowd gets bored and my DMCA requests flurry out a month later and all evidence disappears, individuals that might notice dont have the crowd to amplify that they noticed. You can call that “tacit consent” if you want. But streisand removes all leverage.
- int_19h 4y agoAre they going after copies of LLaMA, or after LLaMA derivatives specifically?
- yieldcrv 4y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35287733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35287733
- Mathnerd314 4y agoThat's a contributor to the repo, not someone with commit access.
- greyface- 4y agoA contributor who is also a Facebook employee and co-author of the LLaMA paper, presumably speaking in official capacity.
- oezi 4y agoWhat would you think is holding back Meta and Google? Why can't they just scale up the compute they throw at the problem? What are they tinkering on?
- bugglebeetle 4y agoI think Meta’s problems are largely similar to Google’s: they have very bad leadership, specifically Zuckerberg, and thus can’t leverage their existing talent to execute/compete. The whole Metaverse fiasco would seem to demonstrate he’s effectively a “mad king” at this point, and probably surrounded by a sycophantic c-suite. Having the best talent in the world (which they obviously do by how fast LLama was spit out) isn’t going to matter that much if its all serving at the behest of someone who has become deluded by their initial success and has no ability to course correct.
- aierou 4y agoSelling 20 million Quest 2 headsets is a pretty good outcome for the so-called Metaverse fiasco.
- bugglebeetle 4y agoI think they spent 36 billion on metaverse stuff at last count, so no, not really.
- Aeolun 4y agoHow did literally nothing but Quest come out of that then?
- detaro 4y agoThey would've sold exactly as many of those if they didn't jump full-speed into the Metaverse rabbit hole. Even the Quest 2 release predates that direction shift.
- renonce 4y ago