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This article is missing so many technical details. Would have been so interesting to dig into the "why" and "how".
by hn_user2 3y ago
This article is missing so many technical details. Would have been so interesting to dig into the "why" and "how".
- tapoxi 3y agoI've had something similar happen. For devices that don't have or can't access GPS, they look the MAC address of nearby wifi base stations and see if anything correlated that with a location earlier. This is what the iphone did at launch with the skyhook database. However in some cases your wifi MAC isn't unique and it'll think you're elsewhere. In my specific case it kept resetting my time zone to somewhere in Russia (I'm in Massachusetts) because that's what the MAC said. It seems to be worse if there are no other networks in range for it to do sanity checking against.
- klyrs 3y agoExpecting this random guy to deeply understand the technicalities of why Apple is directing angry people to his house, in a state where it's legal to kill people for stealing your stuff, is not terribly reasonable. If techies are interested, they could help by figuring out the reason for this.
- augment001 3y agoExpecting journalists to have an answer before writing a piece is very reasonable.
- klyrs 3y ago> The Post reached out to Apple on Thursday seeking comment on Schuster’s predicament, and the company’s efforts to resolve it, and was awaiting a reply.
- augment001 3y agoThere are technologists other than Apple who could help them understand.
- sangeeth96 3y agoYeah sure, expecting journalists to find a cause + fix for the trillion-dollar company's buggy software and _only_ call-out and amplify a commoner's struggle _after_ they figure it out sounds super reasonable. Totally.
- augment001 3y agoI’m curious why you imagine anyone is expecting that?
- refulgentis 3y agoBecause you said "Expecting journalists to have an answer before writing a piece is very reasonable." - given the journalist did not have an answer, it implies you think the journalist should have had an answer before publishing
- augment001 3y agoHow is that relevant to Sangeeth69’s comment? There doesn’t seem to be any connection between what they said and what I said.
- refulgentis 3y agoYou said "Expecting journalists to have an answer before writing a piece is very reasonable.", implying it was reasonable to ask journalists to have an answer to the Q in the article. Sangeeth disagrees with you.
- augment001 3y agoI don’t think so. Can you quote something that Sangeeth wrote that indicates how they disagree with me?
- refulgentis 3y ago
- beezle 3y agoIts da Post so maybe not.
- augment001 3y agoIn what state is it legal to kill people for stealing your stuff?
- doubled112 3y agoI’m fairly certain it is legal to shoot people on your property just for being on your property in some states. I don’t know about finding somebody and “protecting” your property somewhere else.
- augment001 3y agoI think you’re spreading misinformation. I hope it’s not intentional. There is not a single state in the US where it is legal to shoot someone just for being on your property.
- jklein11 3y agoIt does seem like there are a number of states in which deadly force is permitted in the circumstances of trespassing https://www.ncsl.org/civil-and-criminal-justice/self-defense-and-stand-your-ground https://www.ncsl.org/civil-and-criminal-justice/self-defense...
- jklein11 3y agoWhile it probably wouldn’t apply in this specific case, in Texas the Castle Doctrine describes circumstances where one could apply lethal force to defend one’s property
- augment001 3y agoCan you explain how this has any relevance at all to going to someone else’s house and killing them because you wrongly think your cellphone is somewhere nearby? As far as I can see the person who I was replying to is simply making this up.
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- hn_user2 3y agoI don't expect a random guy to deeply understand the technicalities, but I do expect a journalist to do more investigation than reaching out to a large corporation for comment. Regardless of what is "expected" I stand by that it would have been interesting to dig in to the details. Hopefully somebody does. I doubt apple will, but I think there can be lessons learned from understanding how it happened if someone were to research it.
- wilg 3y agoCould just be in the center of whatever radius the system spits out from cell tower triangulation, I assume? Or something similar. The technical details would be fun.