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I can understand that, but that's not the hoodie wearer's issue to solve.

amelius 4y ago
I'm not so sure about that (in the long run). If a naked person entered the bus, wouldn't it be their issue to get dressed? In the end it is about a social contract, the details of which may change with the course of time.
- simfree 4y ago
  Nudity in public is legal in Seattle so long as your intent is not to offend.
  - amelius 4y ago
    I didn't check but I think there are lots of places where it is not legal.
    - simfree 4y ago
      I see you edited https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35495960 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35495960 to mention social norms after I commented. Locality and social norms definitely play into this conversation, here in Seattle at least there is a culture that supports nudism, whether it's the summer solstice bike ride, certain beaches that are popular for swimming in your birthday suit, etc.
  - flangola7 4y ago
    Also some western and southern European nations. I've seen art students making life drawings in a city square, for example.
- sosborn 4y ago
  Are you equating wearing a hoodie with wearing nothing at all?
  - amelius 4y ago
    Not equating. Drawing a parallel. If wearing too little is illegal in most places, why wouldn't it be possible to wear too much, in theory?
    - sosborn 4y ago
      You are essentially at a point where you are saying “if I don’t like your outfit I’m going to legislate it.” You might be cool with that, but I’m not.
      - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
        That’s a really bad faith argument. What’s up with people attempting to summarise someone else’s thought in the worst possible way and putting words in their mouths? Some forms of dress and undress have laws. Others don’t have laws but are still bound by social contracts. The person you are replying to is clearing trying to compare these and pointing out responsibility may come down to the wearer in both cases and wondering out loud that society may punish any extreme state of dress. At which point did he say you should pass new legislation or that he agreed with it?
        khochesh_kushat 4y ago
        You always know you're in for a wild ride when a comment starts with "it sounds like you are saying"
booleandilemma 4y ago
If I'm wearing a hoodie I take off the hood when I go indoors. It's just basic courtesy, something I've noticed a lot of people nowadays have trouble with.

I'm not so sure about that (in the long run). If a naked person entered the bus, wouldn't it be their issue to get dressed? In the end it is about a social contract, the details of which may change with the course of time.

simfree 4y ago
Nudity in public is legal in Seattle so long as your intent is not to offend.
- amelius 4y ago
  I didn't check but I think there are lots of places where it is not legal.
  - simfree 4y ago
    I see you edited https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35495960 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35495960 to mention social norms after I commented. Locality and social norms definitely play into this conversation, here in Seattle at least there is a culture that supports nudism, whether it's the summer solstice bike ride, certain beaches that are popular for swimming in your birthday suit, etc.
- flangola7 4y ago
  Also some western and southern European nations. I've seen art students making life drawings in a city square, for example.
sosborn 4y ago
Are you equating wearing a hoodie with wearing nothing at all?
- amelius 4y ago
  Not equating. Drawing a parallel. If wearing too little is illegal in most places, why wouldn't it be possible to wear too much, in theory?
  - sosborn 4y ago
    You are essentially at a point where you are saying “if I don’t like your outfit I’m going to legislate it.” You might be cool with that, but I’m not.
    - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
      That’s a really bad faith argument. What’s up with people attempting to summarise someone else’s thought in the worst possible way and putting words in their mouths? Some forms of dress and undress have laws. Others don’t have laws but are still bound by social contracts. The person you are replying to is clearing trying to compare these and pointing out responsibility may come down to the wearer in both cases and wondering out loud that society may punish any extreme state of dress. At which point did he say you should pass new legislation or that he agreed with it?
      - khochesh_kushat 4y ago
        You always know you're in for a wild ride when a comment starts with "it sounds like you are saying"

booleandilemma 4y ago

If I'm wearing a hoodie I take off the hood when I go indoors. It's just basic courtesy, something I've noticed a lot of people nowadays have trouble with.