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> volunteering at a soup kitchen Great on you if you are... but doesn't exactly solve issues of people being attacked with metal pipes, no?

by abeyer 4y ago

23B1 4y ago
My point is simply that talk is cheap – and this problem exists because that's all anyone does about it.
- notch898b 4y ago
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  - rationalist 4y ago
    Are those links working for anyone else?
    - notch898b 4y ago
      links are fixed above. My bad!
  - junofan 4y ago
    Tough video.
  - lambdasquirrel 4y ago
    I think the problem is that folks in SF have become too desensitized to crazy things like this. It’s a special sort of crazy in the U.S. where on the right, you’ve got folks who seem okay not setting hard boundaries on not-okay levels of violence because it conflicts with their political ideology, and… on the left you also have folks not setting hard boundaries on not-okay levels of crime and violence because doing so would conflict with their narrative of things. I worked in a soup kitchen as a teen. This ain’t a soup kitchen problem.
    - panarky 4y ago
      The Cash App guy moved to Miami from SF. In 2022, Miami recorded 47 murders, and SF recorded 55 murders. Yet SF has twice the population of Miami. So why is every murder in SF hyped up as if the city is hopelessly broken, while you never hear about murders in Miami? Even though Miami's murder rate is much higher?
      - abeyer 4y ago
        Because SF is dense and not particularly segregated (as far as US cities go) so wealthy white people are more likely to witness first hand or be victimized than in in many other places.
      - das-hinterland 4y ago
        The easy assumption is that in cities like Miami, LA, Chicago, St. Louis, and (previously) NYC the violence was confined to particular pockets of the city e.g. those rife with gang violence. It was easy for ordinary people to avoid by staying out of those areas. In cities like SF and Seattle there is widespread and visible chaos and disorder, even in the large shopping districts and tourist areas. This is perpetuated by their residents' indifference and acceptance of utter lawlessness as normal. You could likely leave your car parked on the street during a night out in the aforementioned "murderous" cities and not worry. In SF and Seattle there is a very good chance you will have your windows broken.
    - gotoeleven 4y ago
      peer comment has it backwards, sf has half the population of miami
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  - renewiltord 4y ago
    The description of the video is horrific. I can't bring myself to watch. I got one of these for the car and one for my backpack in case https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KQS2NGK?th=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KQS2NGK?th=1 I was 2 h and one block away in spacetime. Wish I'd been there and I hope if a chance arises I will be able to help. Many times strangers have stopped to help me when I was injured. It is sad none like that crossed paths with this poor man.

> volunteering at a soup kitchen Great on you if you are... but doesn't exactly solve issues of people being attacked with metal pipes, no?

by abeyer 4y ago

> volunteering at a soup kitchen Great on you if you are... but doesn't exactly solve issues of people being attacked with metal pipes, no?

23B1 4y ago

My point is simply that talk is cheap – and this problem exists because that's all anyone does about it.

notch898b 4y ago
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- rationalist 4y ago
  Are those links working for anyone else?
  - notch898b 4y ago
    links are fixed above. My bad!
- junofan 4y ago
  Tough video.
- lambdasquirrel 4y ago
  I think the problem is that folks in SF have become too desensitized to crazy things like this. It’s a special sort of crazy in the U.S. where on the right, you’ve got folks who seem okay not setting hard boundaries on not-okay levels of violence because it conflicts with their political ideology, and… on the left you also have folks not setting hard boundaries on not-okay levels of crime and violence because doing so would conflict with their narrative of things. I worked in a soup kitchen as a teen. This ain’t a soup kitchen problem.
  - panarky 4y ago
    The Cash App guy moved to Miami from SF. In 2022, Miami recorded 47 murders, and SF recorded 55 murders. Yet SF has twice the population of Miami. So why is every murder in SF hyped up as if the city is hopelessly broken, while you never hear about murders in Miami? Even though Miami's murder rate is much higher?
    - abeyer 4y ago
      Because SF is dense and not particularly segregated (as far as US cities go) so wealthy white people are more likely to witness first hand or be victimized than in in many other places.
    - das-hinterland 4y ago
      The easy assumption is that in cities like Miami, LA, Chicago, St. Louis, and (previously) NYC the violence was confined to particular pockets of the city e.g. those rife with gang violence. It was easy for ordinary people to avoid by staying out of those areas. In cities like SF and Seattle there is widespread and visible chaos and disorder, even in the large shopping districts and tourist areas. This is perpetuated by their residents' indifference and acceptance of utter lawlessness as normal. You could likely leave your car parked on the street during a night out in the aforementioned "murderous" cities and not worry. In SF and Seattle there is a very good chance you will have your windows broken.
  - gotoeleven 4y ago
    peer comment has it backwards, sf has half the population of miami
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- renewiltord 4y ago
  The description of the video is horrific. I can't bring myself to watch. I got one of these for the car and one for my backpack in case https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KQS2NGK?th=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KQS2NGK?th=1 I was 2 h and one block away in spacetime. Wish I'd been there and I hope if a chance arises I will be able to help. Many times strangers have stopped to help me when I was injured. It is sad none like that crossed paths with this poor man.