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I used to bike through the Presidio every weekend and I couldn't even imagine how it's possible to kill a cyclist there with the low speed limits and clear view
by snozolli 4y ago
I used to bike through the Presidio every weekend and I couldn't even imagine how it's possible to kill a cyclist there with the low speed limits and clear views.
Keyte said Boyes was traveling in the bike lane when a car hit him head-on
That explains it. There's no escaping that level of incompetence. Self-driving cars can't get here fast enough.
- trgn 4y agoAgreed with the overall sentiment, but I hope the tech-rush does not us forget the low-tech. Bollards, trees, ... A safe bike-lane really is only a few bollards away, a safe bike-lane can be made _today_.
- vuln 4y agoI’m confused. Typically when using a bike lane you go with the flow of traffic. So was this cyclist going against the flow of traffic? I know when walk you’re supposed to go against the flow to lessen your chances of being abducted (you can see cars as they get close to you) never heard of riding against the flow of traffic on a bike. Seems dangerous.
- sethhochberg 4y agoThe driver crossed the center line into the opposite direction of travel.
- davey48016 4y agoThe Reddit link that latchkey posted says "A speeding car heading North careened into the opposite lane and hit a cyclist."
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- snozolli 4y agoSo was this cyclist going against the flow of traffic? It's really weird that your mind immediately imagined a situation where you can blame the cyclist.
- japhib 4y agoIt's not weird. Either the driver is at fault, or the cyclist is at fault.
- trgn 4y agoNo! This line of thinking must be severely confronted. There's a third option. It is _your_ fault, meaning your commonwealth, your polis, your politicians, your city council, ... The fact that so many cyclists and pedestrians get casually killed, is because roads are dangerous. They are only dangerous because of fast driving heavy cars. Slow down the cars, safely separate cars from cyclists with bollards, and this stuff ceases to happen so frequently. In other words, our built environment needs to create virtuous conditions, rather than vicious ones. We demand a virtuous environment from our factory floors, our theme parks, children playgrounds, ... but somehow, unfathomably, our public realm must be a Thunderdome, where death and injury is fully a personal responsibility.
- snozolli 4y agoA elite cyclist was struck head on while riding in a bike lane. It's weird to automatically assume the cyclist was riding in the bike lane on the wrong side of the road. Additionally, it was explained what happened in the very next paragraph, so maybe RTFA before commenting?
- vuln 4y agoI can’t RTFA it’s pay walled. My reply that you ignored says that. It’s also against HN guidelines to comment about reading articles.
- snozolli 4y agoMy reply that you ignored says that. You aren't famous. I don't keep track of what you say elsewhere in a thread. Regardless, it's absurd to not read an article and then make weird, victim-blaming assumptions.
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- dekhn 4y agoThe driver of the car was DUI (drunk) and crossed over to other side of the road. It's rare to see bikes going against the flow (I see novices doing this occasionally in SF but an experienced cyclist is unlikely to be riding against the flow).
- readthenotes1 4y agoI think it's really weird to have bikes go with the flow of traffic in a bike lane. They'll never see what's coming at them.
- pm90 4y agoOr just ban/heavily restrict cars from cities right now.