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Musk is the threat to free speech that the right wing warned you about.

labrador 4y ago
I had a list with a bunch of Twitters in support of Ukraine, including NAFO which those who support Russia find problematic. One day recently I went to my lists to find it gone. My other three lists were still there. I just saw this: Elon Musk's new Twitter: a "verified" account that was previously suspended for spreading disinformation about the Bucha Massacre now spreading completely fictional quotes from Volodymyr Zelenskyy with over a thousand retweets and nearly 300,000 views. https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1644048712753356800 https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1644048712753356800 Elon Musk is the new Rupert Murdoch, a menace to free societies
- happythebob 4y ago
  Elon Musk has been gaslighting as an "enlightened centrist" who happens to have rightwing views for years, I knew from the day he bought Twitter that his goal was to control digital media for the right.
  - labrador 4y ago
    At least he's out about it now. Dave Troy wrote an interesting article about it Musk’s Twitter Buy Makes No Sense – Unless It’s Part of Something Bigger. Brexit and Trump were initially seen as jokes, but the new owner of the social media giant could pose a serious threat to democracy – and a boon for Vladimir Putin https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-no-sense-unless-its-part-of-something-bigger/ https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-n...
  - misssocrates 4y ago
    Oh? What's his take on climate change and sustainable energy?
    - dekhn 4y ago
      His views only partly align with conservatism and Republicanism (note that Peter Thiel identifies as a republican but is gay). There is a subset of the Republican party that thinks climate change is real and that we should prepare for it, not deny it, and sees sustainable energy as a desirable goal. It's hard to understand Elon's politics without considering libertarianism, singularitism, technocracy, demagoguery, and populism.
prh8 4y ago
Just like everything else from the right wing, every accusation is an admission
logicalmonster 4y ago
1) How is it a threat to free speech to give some helpful labels or context to Tweets? Pretty much all controversial social media topics get some kind of disclaimers, "fact-checking" or labels from sites like YouTube, Twitter, and others. 2) If NPR receives government funding, isn't calling them state affiliated at least in the ballpark of reasonable labels? 3) Personally, I think the labels themselves should probably change. Rather than calling media entities state-affiliated, maybe Twitter could link to whatever public data is available about each media outlet's funding source. Rather than seeing "state affiliated", maybe people should see the percentage of funding a media outlet gets from government sources. If NPR gets ~4% of their funding from government sources, maybe adding that figure in as the label is fine. If RussiaToday gets X% of their funding from the Russian government, knowing that is helpful to assess their posts too.
- Pxtl 4y ago
  In Canada, the federal government funds all major newspapers. Should they all be flagged as such?
  - logicalmonster 4y ago
    Holy crap, yes. Isn't that helpful context for deciding how likely it is that certain news stories are possibly biased or not?
  - asynchronous 4y ago
    Based on Canadian media’s relationship with the current regime, unironically yes.
    - Pxtl 4y ago
      "regime". And most of the print media is constantly eviscerating the PM, which would be an odd act of they cared which side if the bread was buttered.
      - logicalmonster 4y ago

I had a list with a bunch of Twitters in support of Ukraine, including NAFO which those who support Russia find problematic. One day recently I went to my lists to find it gone. My other three lists were still there. I just saw this: Elon Musk's new Twitter: a "verified" account that was previously suspended for spreading disinformation about the Bucha Massacre now spreading completely fictional quotes from Volodymyr Zelenskyy with over a thousand retweets and nearly 300,000 views. https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1644048712753356800 https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1644048712753356800 Elon Musk is the new Rupert Murdoch, a menace to free societies

happythebob 4y ago
Elon Musk has been gaslighting as an "enlightened centrist" who happens to have rightwing views for years, I knew from the day he bought Twitter that his goal was to control digital media for the right.
- labrador 4y ago
  At least he's out about it now. Dave Troy wrote an interesting article about it Musk’s Twitter Buy Makes No Sense – Unless It’s Part of Something Bigger. Brexit and Trump were initially seen as jokes, but the new owner of the social media giant could pose a serious threat to democracy – and a boon for Vladimir Putin https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-no-sense-unless-its-part-of-something-bigger/ https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/musks-twitter-buy-makes-n...
- misssocrates 4y ago
  Oh? What's his take on climate change and sustainable energy?
  - dekhn 4y ago
    His views only partly align with conservatism and Republicanism (note that Peter Thiel identifies as a republican but is gay). There is a subset of the Republican party that thinks climate change is real and that we should prepare for it, not deny it, and sees sustainable energy as a desirable goal. It's hard to understand Elon's politics without considering libertarianism, singularitism, technocracy, demagoguery, and populism.

prh8 4y ago

Just like everything else from the right wing, every accusation is an admission

logicalmonster 4y ago

1) How is it a threat to free speech to give some helpful labels or context to Tweets? Pretty much all controversial social media topics get some kind of disclaimers, "fact-checking" or labels from sites like YouTube, Twitter, and others. 2) If NPR receives government funding, isn't calling them state affiliated at least in the ballpark of reasonable labels? 3) Personally, I think the labels themselves should probably change. Rather than calling media entities state-affiliated, maybe Twitter could link to whatever public data is available about each media outlet's funding source. Rather than seeing "state affiliated", maybe people should see the percentage of funding a media outlet gets from government sources. If NPR gets ~4% of their funding from government sources, maybe adding that figure in as the label is fine. If RussiaToday gets X% of their funding from the Russian government, knowing that is helpful to assess their posts too.

Pxtl 4y ago
In Canada, the federal government funds all major newspapers. Should they all be flagged as such?
- logicalmonster 4y ago
  Holy crap, yes. Isn't that helpful context for deciding how likely it is that certain news stories are possibly biased or not?
- asynchronous 4y ago
  Based on Canadian media’s relationship with the current regime, unironically yes.
  - Pxtl 4y ago
    "regime". And most of the print media is constantly eviscerating the PM, which would be an odd act of they cared which side if the bread was buttered.
    - logicalmonster 4y ago