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I can't speak for the parent, but personally, I just don't like awful new stuff. My iMac has a 27" display and a fairly expensive set of peripherals. It's not a

by deong 15y ago

I can't speak for the parent, but personally, I just don't like awful new stuff. My iMac has a 27" display and a fairly expensive set of peripherals. It's not an iPad. In their efforts to make it into one, they broke nearly everything they touched. Scrolling that can't be set up the way I want it (without third party utilities), scroll bars that hide useful information in order to save 0.04% of screen real estate, full screen windows that are almost always massive overkill, but can't really be ignored because to implement them they had to break useful functionality in Spaces. The list goes on, well, not quite forever, but the list of stupid ideas in Lion is to a first approximation, the same as the list of ideas in Lion. The single greatest improvement I've seen in the time I've had my iMac was when the hard drive died and it came back with Snow Leopard without me having to spend the time to downgrade it myself.

Derbasti 15y ago
See, I don't really agree with that. Yes, fullscreen is worse than useless on more than one monitors. But you don't have to use it. Fullscreening an app on a big monitor was never very useful in the first place. But as I said, inertial scrolling is great. Spaces are great. The gestures to navigate spaces are great. All that Versions and Autosave stuff is atrocious. But I rarely stumble into it since I mostly use Emacs. I really like the non-existent scrollbars. I don't miss having those ugly grab-bars on every window one bit. All things told, I'd rather have Lion than Snow Leopard, but really only by a small margin.
- anonymoushn 15y ago
  If inertial scrolling were actually implemented everywhere, I might be alright with it. Instead, it exists for the normal case of scrolling content, but when you go to use spaces you hit right and the content goes left. The same thing happens when you scroll to the side to go back/forward, though this is only true if you conceptually represent your current web page as the rightmost of a sequence. I have liked that Spaces is no longer incredibly broken, but it's a bit annoying that I can't have any configuration other than a really long line full of virtual desktops.
- vacri 15y ago
  Fullscreening an app on a big monitor was never very useful in the first place. We use a mac mini for a 'display wall' monitor... which it turns out sucks because OSX doesn't like you fullscreening things. Then there's the good old 'everyone gather 'round, I want to show you how this works' type thing. Then there's wild differences in the visual area available on a 13" screen vs 27"+ There's plenty of use for fullscreening programs.
  - pooriaazimi 15y ago
    I'd bet a million dollars Apple's gonna fix the full screen "bugs" in a future release. They probably just haven't figured a good way (and API) for that...
- gurkendoktor 15y ago
  > But you don't have to use it. Except that the useless button replaced one that I actually used before. Especially Finder windows are a pain to get to 'normal mode'. > I really like the non-existent scrollbars. The problem is that they only work when the content is obviously clipped, which is easier to ensure on the iPhone. I had two instances where the content seemed to perfectly fit its box (Xcode4 & Recovery Partition). Took me a while to find out that there's more. I appreciate what Lion aims for, but I could rant about its usability for hours. Almost all my bugs are duplicates, and they are all still open even after 10.7.3. :(
api 15y ago
The "make it like iOS" thing scared the hell out of me. Desktops and laptops are not the same type of device as iOS devices. Attempts to unify them will result in ugliness and functional regression.

by deong 15y ago

Derbasti 15y ago

See, I don't really agree with that. Yes, fullscreen is worse than useless on more than one monitors. But you don't have to use it. Fullscreening an app on a big monitor was never very useful in the first place. But as I said, inertial scrolling is great. Spaces are great. The gestures to navigate spaces are great. All that Versions and Autosave stuff is atrocious. But I rarely stumble into it since I mostly use Emacs. I really like the non-existent scrollbars. I don't miss having those ugly grab-bars on every window one bit. All things told, I'd rather have Lion than Snow Leopard, but really only by a small margin.

anonymoushn 15y ago
If inertial scrolling were actually implemented everywhere, I might be alright with it. Instead, it exists for the normal case of scrolling content, but when you go to use spaces you hit right and the content goes left. The same thing happens when you scroll to the side to go back/forward, though this is only true if you conceptually represent your current web page as the rightmost of a sequence. I have liked that Spaces is no longer incredibly broken, but it's a bit annoying that I can't have any configuration other than a really long line full of virtual desktops.
vacri 15y ago
Fullscreening an app on a big monitor was never very useful in the first place. We use a mac mini for a 'display wall' monitor... which it turns out sucks because OSX doesn't like you fullscreening things. Then there's the good old 'everyone gather 'round, I want to show you how this works' type thing. Then there's wild differences in the visual area available on a 13" screen vs 27"+ There's plenty of use for fullscreening programs.
- pooriaazimi 15y ago
  I'd bet a million dollars Apple's gonna fix the full screen "bugs" in a future release. They probably just haven't figured a good way (and API) for that...
gurkendoktor 15y ago
> But you don't have to use it. Except that the useless button replaced one that I actually used before. Especially Finder windows are a pain to get to 'normal mode'. > I really like the non-existent scrollbars. The problem is that they only work when the content is obviously clipped, which is easier to ensure on the iPhone. I had two instances where the content seemed to perfectly fit its box (Xcode4 & Recovery Partition). Took me a while to find out that there's more. I appreciate what Lion aims for, but I could rant about its usability for hours. Almost all my bugs are duplicates, and they are all still open even after 10.7.3. :(

api 15y ago

The "make it like iOS" thing scared the hell out of me. Desktops and laptops are not the same type of device as iOS devices. Attempts to unify them will result in ugliness and functional regression.