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https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck:

by PakG1 4y ago

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks

opportune 4y ago
I don’t recall the source, it may have just been anecdotes online that aren’t easily verifiable, but even after Facebook went legit as a company I’m pretty sure access to data (who’s looking at whose profile, stuff like that) was marketed as an employee perk.
- jboy55 4y ago
  Not a perk, if you look at personal info of anyone in your social circle, you are fired, no matter who you are, for what ever reason. If you need to fix a bug, and you need to look at personal info, it is logged and reviewed, go snooping, you are fired. You use your friend as the example for that bug, you are fired. In fact, when I worked there, I was paranoid I'd accidentally look at personal info and get fired, and rigorously used test data.
  - opportune 4y ago
    This was from the early days (a few years after scaling out employees), not recently. Thanks for confirming that is no longer the case
    - Shish2k 4y ago
      For additional sense of timescale - I’ve been there for coming up to a decade, and day 1 of employee onboarding was “you will be fired immediately if you even try to do <list of activities>” (even looking up your own data at the database level is forbidden, because eg foreign keys could imply a list of who has blocked you, which is not visible in the web frontend) I’ve never dared test the auditing of the user-data-logs, but I have tested the auditing of the network-logs — when I tried ssh’ing from my work laptop to my personal web server (so that I could run an IRC client there), it took seconds for the security team to react ^^;
henriquez 4y ago
I think Zuckerberg is a sociopath but this chat log often gets dredged up and it’s never been verified. It could be real but it could be an urban legend or an internet echo or the reincarnation of tubgirl.
- stametseater 4y ago
  Short of Zuck confessing to the authenticity of those messages, what sort of verification would you even expect? If Business Insider was libeling him, why didn't he sue them for it? The quote is consistent with his behavior and attitudes since then, and with other accounts of his behavior and attitudes at the time. I don't see any reason to believe it's a fake quote. People on HN get upset when the quote is posted because it's posted so frequently, and the reason it's posted so frequently is because it continues to be relevant to and consistent with Zuckerberg's behavior and attitudes to this day.
  - henriquez 4y ago
    I think it’s more disturbing that Zuckerberg named his company Meta in reference to a fictional dystopia where an antagonistic billionaire monopolist who runs a V.R. universe tries to literally control the minds of the world population both on and offline to become more powerful than world governments. Hubris is arrogance before the gods but what do you call the same before the devils? TL;DR: there is factual stuff Zuck does right in the open and is worse than a sketchy internet quote.
    - stametseater 4y ago
      > TL;DR: there is factual stuff Zuck does right in the open and is worse than a sketchy internet quote. All that shit lends credence to the veracity of the quote (which comes from Business Insider, not the amorphous "internet"). A quote which Zuckerberg has never even bothered to deny. > it could be an urban legend or an internet echo or the reincarnation of tubgirl. Please.
    - robocat 4y ago
      > named his company Meta in reference to a fictional dystopia Meta is a normal developer word - like Uber was. I personally never even knew there was a movie called Meta, although it is entirely obvious there should be at least one. Not saying Zuck wasn’t referencing the movie, but I am saying it is reasonably likely that wasn’t the reason.

by PakG1 4y ago

opportune 4y ago

I don’t recall the source, it may have just been anecdotes online that aren’t easily verifiable, but even after Facebook went legit as a company I’m pretty sure access to data (who’s looking at whose profile, stuff like that) was marketed as an employee perk.

jboy55 4y ago
Not a perk, if you look at personal info of anyone in your social circle, you are fired, no matter who you are, for what ever reason. If you need to fix a bug, and you need to look at personal info, it is logged and reviewed, go snooping, you are fired. You use your friend as the example for that bug, you are fired. In fact, when I worked there, I was paranoid I'd accidentally look at personal info and get fired, and rigorously used test data.
- opportune 4y ago
  This was from the early days (a few years after scaling out employees), not recently. Thanks for confirming that is no longer the case
  - Shish2k 4y ago
    For additional sense of timescale - I’ve been there for coming up to a decade, and day 1 of employee onboarding was “you will be fired immediately if you even try to do <list of activities>” (even looking up your own data at the database level is forbidden, because eg foreign keys could imply a list of who has blocked you, which is not visible in the web frontend) I’ve never dared test the auditing of the user-data-logs, but I have tested the auditing of the network-logs — when I tried ssh’ing from my work laptop to my personal web server (so that I could run an IRC client there), it took seconds for the security team to react ^^;

henriquez 4y ago

I think Zuckerberg is a sociopath but this chat log often gets dredged up and it’s never been verified. It could be real but it could be an urban legend or an internet echo or the reincarnation of tubgirl.

stametseater 4y ago
Short of Zuck confessing to the authenticity of those messages, what sort of verification would you even expect? If Business Insider was libeling him, why didn't he sue them for it? The quote is consistent with his behavior and attitudes since then, and with other accounts of his behavior and attitudes at the time. I don't see any reason to believe it's a fake quote. People on HN get upset when the quote is posted because it's posted so frequently, and the reason it's posted so frequently is because it continues to be relevant to and consistent with Zuckerberg's behavior and attitudes to this day.
- henriquez 4y ago
  I think it’s more disturbing that Zuckerberg named his company Meta in reference to a fictional dystopia where an antagonistic billionaire monopolist who runs a V.R. universe tries to literally control the minds of the world population both on and offline to become more powerful than world governments. Hubris is arrogance before the gods but what do you call the same before the devils? TL;DR: there is factual stuff Zuck does right in the open and is worse than a sketchy internet quote.
  - stametseater 4y ago
    > TL;DR: there is factual stuff Zuck does right in the open and is worse than a sketchy internet quote. All that shit lends credence to the veracity of the quote (which comes from Business Insider, not the amorphous "internet"). A quote which Zuckerberg has never even bothered to deny. > it could be an urban legend or an internet echo or the reincarnation of tubgirl. Please.
  - robocat 4y ago
    > named his company Meta in reference to a fictional dystopia Meta is a normal developer word - like Uber was. I personally never even knew there was a movie called Meta, although it is entirely obvious there should be at least one. Not saying Zuck wasn’t referencing the movie, but I am saying it is reasonably likely that wasn’t the reason.