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>> I wonder if there needs to be a cultural equivalent, where a repository of digital or physical artifacts is "too big to fail" because of the negative cultura
by bruce511 4y ago
>> I wonder if there needs to be a cultural equivalent, where a repository of digital or physical artifacts is "too big to fail" because of the negative cultural impact their failure would have.
You can wonder all you like, and call me a cynic, but the US runs on money not culture. The American identity is built on money and wealth and excess, not on anything you might describe as "culture".
The IA would not "fail" if it was just left alone, but business never saw a nickel they didn't want to grab, so the law suits are not exactly surprising. And I expect the courts to lean towards the publishers.
- mistrial9 4y ago> US runs on money not culture fortunately, someone saying that does not make it real. Think of a "soup" and of "experiment" and you will get more detail. Resolving an entire nation to a 1 or 0 classification is not defensible, right?
- lanternfish 4y agoIn this case though, the question is what underlying motivator dominates. The claim doesn't need to be as strong as 'the us is money, no culture' and can just be 'in the US, money accounts for more willpower and political capital than culture in a head to head'
- hyperhello 4y agoResolving the statement to a 1/0 classification isn't necessary. If the US ran on culture, the archive would be considered a jewel; but the US runs on money so it's seen as an underoptimization. If you're predicting what a group would do in a specific case and decision, it really is correct to apply generalizations.
- Fr3ck 4y agoThe USA's biggest export is our culture...like it or not. Think of movies, music, etc. Some of it is intangible.
- wahnfrieden 4y agoYou can find positive effect with it only being an indirect and fragile benefit of the system
- tablespoon 4y ago>> You can wonder all you like, and call me a cynic, but the US runs on money not culture. The American identity is built on money and wealth and excess, not on anything you might describe as "culture". > The USA's biggest export is our culture...like it or not. Think of movies, music, etc. Some of it is intangible. Yeah, but that's not high culture. It's mass-market culture that makes a lot of money. I think what the GP is referring to as "culture" is high culture--the kind of stuff that is not popular and requires subsidies and special effort to sustain.
- misssocrates 4y agoIt was built on entrepreneurship that made Silicon Valley and Hacker News. Now it's arguably a culture of attention and tribal identity.
- chroma 4y agoThe US runs on rule of law, and copyright law has been around for centuries. Many sites that violate copyright laws would be fine if left alone. That doesn’t mean they should be immune from lawsuits. Everyone was telling the internet archive that this was a dumb idea because it opened them to lawsuits with ruinous fines. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and IA is crying foul. It can be true that the internet archive is an invaluable store of history while also being true that they made an embarrassing own-goal.
- arvindhmani 4y ago>The US runs on rule of law Oh you sweet summer child.
- Zetice 4y agoShit on the US all you like, but any country could step up to save the IA… This isn’t an American problem, it’s a drawback to the economic system the globe has adopted.