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That's too much effort, don't you think.Maybe not for you but for general tech folks.

by adave 4y ago

dopeboy 4y ago
OP has a somewhat complicated setup. Here's an easier one that I use: * Pay $15/month for a VPS (whatbox in my case). * whatbox has a notion of first class apps, including Plex. Click a button in their GUI to install it. * drag and drop your music using whatbox's GUI file browser That's it.
- pohuing 4y ago
  Wow $15 a month? What's in that box, you're not just using it for some music streaming right? I've got my reverse proxy running on a 3.45€ instance from hetzner and I can't imagine you need much more for some music streaming right?
  - dopeboy 4y ago
    I use it for many other use cases...
  - Cyph0n 4y ago
    The name of the service they use is a bit of a giveaway :)
  - Hamuko 4y ago
    I'm guessing that your Hetzner instance loses when it comes to storage space. https://whatbox.ca/plans https://whatbox.ca/plans
    - knutzui 4y ago
      I'm paying 36€/month for 6TB of storage and my own real server. Used to be cheaper, they've been raising the price slowly over the last 2 years.
- waboremo 4y ago
  $15/mo is only marginally better than a family streaming plan on price, but loses out on music availability. Getting that down to $5-10 would be worth it for most who aren't into the social aspect of music services.
- gigel82 4y ago
  You're scaring people away from selfhosting with that $15/month. There are plenty of cheaper options, including under-$1/month with a dedicated IPv4 and enough storage for thousands of songs (or hundreds if you're using flac): https://lowendbox.com/blog/1-vps-1-usd-vps-per-month/ https://lowendbox.com/blog/1-vps-1-usd-vps-per-month/
  - dopeboy 4y ago
    Fair point. I was trying to emphasize the ease of use with my setup, not the price.
  - wink 4y ago
    Those 1$ offers usually come with just a single 10GB disk, so pretty useless for storing anything. Unless you manage to store the files elsewhere, which will probably have costs again.
- alangibson 4y ago
  The negative reactions to you saying $15 are a good example of why there are no good Spotify and Netflix alternatives for people wanting to stream their own media. People claim to want it, but they put a very low monetary value on it. No new business can survive on $3 a month subscriptions.
  - mjevans 4y ago
    At that price the transaction fees are large. ~35 - 36 USD a year? Depends on what's going on and the volume. Probably no support or paid per incident support.
    - alangibson 4y ago
      Common wisdom is that you can't bootstrap for less that $50 per customer per month, and at $100 it actually becomes a business that can grow. No one wanting to self-stream will pay that, so then you would need to look for investment to stay alive until you have scale.
      - mjevans 4y ago
        That's 600 to 1200 USD a year per customer, an _entirely_ different class of service and relationship. The completely different order of magnitude endpoint I was thinking of is much more like the sort of 'streamed remote file storage as a service' (using off the shelf tech and software with a tiny bit of maybe custom glue) and almost zero support; with you get what you pay for levels of congestion and peek usage pains as potential problems to complain to that greedy last mile ISP you were forced to use because it was cable or barely better than dialup DSL.
  - antifa 4y ago
    iCloud is $0.99 for 50GB. Surely somebody can offer a 5GB stream-your-own-music plan for $10/year? Another person in this thread apparently is already running one, but the minimum plan starts at 250GB! And 5GB to 250GB is also a huge jump for most people.
chadPrancer 4y ago
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That's too much effort, don't you think.Maybe not for you but for general tech folks.

by adave 4y ago

That's too much effort, don't you think.Maybe not for you but for general tech folks.

OP has a somewhat complicated setup. Here's an easier one that I use: * Pay $15/month for a VPS (whatbox in my case). * whatbox has a notion of first class apps, including Plex. Click a button in their GUI to install it. * drag and drop your music using whatbox's GUI file browser That's it.

pohuing 4y ago
Wow $15 a month? What's in that box, you're not just using it for some music streaming right? I've got my reverse proxy running on a 3.45€ instance from hetzner and I can't imagine you need much more for some music streaming right?
- dopeboy 4y ago
  I use it for many other use cases...
- Cyph0n 4y ago
  The name of the service they use is a bit of a giveaway :)
- Hamuko 4y ago
  I'm guessing that your Hetzner instance loses when it comes to storage space. https://whatbox.ca/plans https://whatbox.ca/plans
  - knutzui 4y ago
    I'm paying 36€/month for 6TB of storage and my own real server. Used to be cheaper, they've been raising the price slowly over the last 2 years.
waboremo 4y ago
$15/mo is only marginally better than a family streaming plan on price, but loses out on music availability. Getting that down to $5-10 would be worth it for most who aren't into the social aspect of music services.
gigel82 4y ago
You're scaring people away from selfhosting with that $15/month. There are plenty of cheaper options, including under-$1/month with a dedicated IPv4 and enough storage for thousands of songs (or hundreds if you're using flac): https://lowendbox.com/blog/1-vps-1-usd-vps-per-month/ https://lowendbox.com/blog/1-vps-1-usd-vps-per-month/
- dopeboy 4y ago
  Fair point. I was trying to emphasize the ease of use with my setup, not the price.
- wink 4y ago
  Those 1$ offers usually come with just a single 10GB disk, so pretty useless for storing anything. Unless you manage to store the files elsewhere, which will probably have costs again.
alangibson 4y ago
The negative reactions to you saying $15 are a good example of why there are no good Spotify and Netflix alternatives for people wanting to stream their own media. People claim to want it, but they put a very low monetary value on it. No new business can survive on $3 a month subscriptions.
- mjevans 4y ago
  At that price the transaction fees are large. ~35 - 36 USD a year? Depends on what's going on and the volume. Probably no support or paid per incident support.
  - alangibson 4y ago
    Common wisdom is that you can't bootstrap for less that $50 per customer per month, and at $100 it actually becomes a business that can grow. No one wanting to self-stream will pay that, so then you would need to look for investment to stay alive until you have scale.
    - mjevans 4y ago
      That's 600 to 1200 USD a year per customer, an _entirely_ different class of service and relationship. The completely different order of magnitude endpoint I was thinking of is much more like the sort of 'streamed remote file storage as a service' (using off the shelf tech and software with a tiny bit of maybe custom glue) and almost zero support; with you get what you pay for levels of congestion and peek usage pains as potential problems to complain to that greedy last mile ISP you were forced to use because it was cable or barely better than dialup DSL.
- antifa 4y ago
  iCloud is $0.99 for 50GB. Surely somebody can offer a 5GB stream-your-own-music plan for $10/year? Another person in this thread apparently is already running one, but the minimum plan starts at 250GB! And 5GB to 250GB is also a huge jump for most people.

chadPrancer 4y ago

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