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You’re right. This should be a teaching moment for innovative tech companies, to avoid growing a physical presence in most of Europe as much as possible. These

You’re right. This should be a teaching moment for innovative tech companies, to avoid growing a physical presence in most of Europe as much as possible. These employees will rarely be a source of innovation or high performance for the company. And contrary to reason, all the advanced social benefits somehow end up being a vine strangling your ability to compete than the ideal that frees you from worrying about basic needs in pursuit of higher goals.

pjc50 4y ago
Everyone else in this thread is stating that a company has no higher goals than profit.
- ExoticPearTree 4y ago
  Well, why else would you start a company?
  - nonethewiser 4y ago
    To pay taxes!
- ilikehurdles 4y ago
  Building Tesla or OpenAI or Amazon or Google or Netflix or Moderna or Apple is a higher goal than merely surviving/putting food on your table.
pjmorris 4y ago
> And contrary to reason, all the advanced social benefits somehow end up being a vine strangling your ability to compete than the ideal that frees you from worrying about basic needs in pursuit of higher goals. It's like the AI alignment problem, but between corporations and people.
- nonethewiser 4y ago
  That’s a great analogy. Both of which boil down to the fundamental fact that we are flawed in the sense that we can’t perfectly turn our intentions into action.
- throwayayes_2 4y ago
  (sorry for the off topic reply) Hi pjmorris! I'm the person from this thread > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34400463 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34400463 But now I'm throwayayes_2 due to losing lots of my personal data during house flooding last month. I wonder if you still have any spare laptop for me! Sorry to disturb this thread & thank you!
  - pjmorris 4y ago
    Hi, throwayayes_2. I still don't have a spare laptop. Even if I did, shipping from the US to Indonesia would be a challenge. I am hoping someone reading here who's closer to you and who has a spare laptop can help you.
    - throwayayes_2 4y ago
      Hi pjmorris! No worries & thank you for the reply!

pjc50 4y ago

Everyone else in this thread is stating that a company has no higher goals than profit.

ExoticPearTree 4y ago
Well, why else would you start a company?
- nonethewiser 4y ago
  To pay taxes!
ilikehurdles 4y ago
Building Tesla or OpenAI or Amazon or Google or Netflix or Moderna or Apple is a higher goal than merely surviving/putting food on your table.

pjmorris 4y ago

> And contrary to reason, all the advanced social benefits somehow end up being a vine strangling your ability to compete than the ideal that frees you from worrying about basic needs in pursuit of higher goals. It's like the AI alignment problem, but between corporations and people.

nonethewiser 4y ago
That’s a great analogy. Both of which boil down to the fundamental fact that we are flawed in the sense that we can’t perfectly turn our intentions into action.
throwayayes_2 4y ago
(sorry for the off topic reply) Hi pjmorris! I'm the person from this thread > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34400463 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34400463 But now I'm throwayayes_2 due to losing lots of my personal data during house flooding last month. I wonder if you still have any spare laptop for me! Sorry to disturb this thread & thank you!
- pjmorris 4y ago
  Hi, throwayayes_2. I still don't have a spare laptop. Even if I did, shipping from the US to Indonesia would be a challenge. I am hoping someone reading here who's closer to you and who has a spare laptop can help you.
  - throwayayes_2 4y ago
    Hi pjmorris! No worries & thank you for the reply!