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From the FAQ [0]: > Why is the time is wrong? > The timezone is spoofed, to combat fingerprinting. > What's this weird spacing around the websites? > It’s c

From the FAQ [0]: > Why is the time is wrong? > The timezone is spoofed, to combat fingerprinting. > What's this weird spacing around the websites? > It’s called letterboxing, a function to combat fingerprinting (using your browser window size to identify you together with other measures). > How do I stay logged into specific websites between sessions? > It’s not possible. It’s an action to combat tracking. Not sure if there are other measures, other than that the browser itself doesn't track anything. Looking much better than a stock firefox, and presumably will improve over time. [0] - https://mullvad.net/en/help/tag/mullvad-browser/ https://mullvad.net/en/help/tag/mullvad-browser/

ta1243 4y ago
Except most of the time I don't want to spoof my timezone, don't want weird spacing around websites, and do want to remain logged in to websites. > How do I stay logged into specific websites between sessions? > It’s not possible. It’s an action to combat tracking. Turns me off immediately
- archb 4y ago
  I thought it'd be possible by simply turning off "Always use private browsing mode" setting, but it doesn't seem to work. Sessions are still cleared upon browser exit. In my case, I had to turn off that setting because without it, 1Password wouldn't work.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
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- detrites 4y ago
  Well, some of us don't want to be tracked, don't want to be tracked and don't want to be tracked. Given your stated preferences, are you actually looking for a privacy-focused browser?
  - ramraj07 4y ago
    Some people just want everything, no compromises.
    - _puk 4y ago
      But isn't this what Firefox containers achieve? My understanding is that cookies etc aren't shared between containers, so I can stay logged in, and not be tracked across websites. If it's achievable, why compromise?
      - noahmasur 4y ago
        Your browser can still be fingerprinted without cookies. The site just needs enough unique information (user agent, timezone, screen size, IP, operating system, country, etc.) to form a trackable identity.
        jwestbury 4y ago
        > IP This is a surprisingly effective one when combined with other users of your network. A couple of years ago, I started getting Facebook ads for things I'd never looked at, but that I knew my wife had looked at. We don't share any devices, and she doesn't even have a Facebook account. It's pretty troubling how invasive shadow profiles are.
      - hiccuphippo 4y ago
        What I'd like is a Mullvad container in regular Firefox so I can choose what sites to open in it, or rather make it the default and move a site to another container if I want permanent cookies. I use temporary containers now but the extra fingerprinting features appeal to me.
        SadTrombone 4y ago
        You could look into Mozilla's VPN offering, it does what you want and is powered by Mullvad.
- neurostimulant 4y ago
  This is inherited from the upstream TOR browser. It's basically designed to evade fingerprinting by making the browser's fingerprint similar across all TOR browser's users. It's indeed very inconvenient so don't use these browsers unless you're seriously care about these stuff.
- naillo 4y ago
  Obviously you're not the target audience for a privacy focused browser
- oefrha 4y ago
  Well, I’d say this is largely privacy theater for hobbyists. Like a lot of other hobbies, unreasonable suffering is often part of the fun and creates a sense of belonging. What sets you apart if you’re just browsing like every other mortal? Edit: As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, there are still plenty of identifying bits.
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  Convenience is the wedge that separates you from your privacy.
- _0lhw 4y ago
  No one wants that, most websites become broken by taking pro-privacy measures. It's about not consenting to tracking. Right now the majority of users are implicitly giving consent to tracking. It seems like a harmless thing to be tracked, but once the likes of haveibeenpwned.com came out and the databases that fuel it, and services that provide search utility to those databases, it should become clear that being tracked across every single website on the internet is probably not what you want. Scenario: You apply for a job, they look up your totally-clean email address, see the email linked to an ip address on some database from a leaky website you applied for a job on, the ip address is linked to a service where you used a certain password which you used on 6 other services, one of which had a database leak of your system fonts, now you can see all the accounts to services to which your system fonts were identically matched. Oh look, you were 13 years old when you joined stack overflow on an abandoned account and you posted some humorous, incorrect solutions that were down-voted to oblivion. But that's ok, they invite you to the job interview and they make a funny remark about your stack overflow answers and then offer you a job. Do you want to work there now that you know they completely invaded your privacy ? And yes, performing such searches is trivial.
  - nearbuy 4y ago
    So in this scenario, if only you had used the Mullvad browser then... you wouldn't have have found out this employer snoops on their employees and might have accepted their job offer? You've concocted a scenario where a privacy-focused browser ends up causing you problems.
    - hotpathdev 4y ago
      I'm not advocating for this browser specifically, only encouraging more people to take pro-privacy and online safety measures. It's pointless to say the problem is the employer, or the hacker who released the data, or the programmer who relied on bad algorithms, or the admin who didn't secure the data. One way or another, this data will get leaked, the old hashing and encryption techniques will be broken and there will be people searching through it all. Forget about the government, at least they are beholden to law and maintaining the appearance of adhering to it. Substitute employer for neighbor, girlfriend or internet stalker and you have equally valid scenarios which are even more disturbing in my mind.
- weberer 4y ago
  Then standard Firefox with "Enhanced Tracking Protection" set to "Strict" would probably be enough for you.
- mongol 4y ago
  I like the Duck Duck Go browser. It has a "burn" buttton that destroys all cookies except those you opt in to keep.
- DrewADesign 4y ago
  Have you considered becoming a non-user?
- bubersson 4y ago
  Unfortunately from now on, the Mullvad Browser is the only browser you can use, ever. So you will be annoyed by this inconvenience a lot.
illiarian 4y ago
So it's Tor Browser, but for clearnet
- npteljes 4y ago
  Yes, and I like it that they explicitly say so on the page. This kind of transparency and down to earth marketing inspires confidence.
  - illiarian 4y ago
    Ah, completely missed it on the page. So I'm just re-iterating :)
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bmacho 4y ago
Why not just disable javascript?
shp0ngle 4y ago
What is more satisfying than needing to enter OTP every time I go to check email. I already do this for work (for security theatre) so I will skip this
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sundarurfriend 4y ago
> > Why is the time is wrong? > > The timezone is spoofed, to combat fingerprinting. The annoying thing about this (assuming it's the same as in Firefox) is that the times displayed in your own local History page are also "wrong" i.e. shown in UTC.

ta1243 4y ago

Except most of the time I don't want to spoof my timezone, don't want weird spacing around websites, and do want to remain logged in to websites. > How do I stay logged into specific websites between sessions? > It’s not possible. It’s an action to combat tracking. Turns me off immediately

archb 4y ago
I thought it'd be possible by simply turning off "Always use private browsing mode" setting, but it doesn't seem to work. Sessions are still cleared upon browser exit. In my case, I had to turn off that setting because without it, 1Password wouldn't work.
encryptluks2 4y ago
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detrites 4y ago
Well, some of us don't want to be tracked, don't want to be tracked and don't want to be tracked. Given your stated preferences, are you actually looking for a privacy-focused browser?
- ramraj07 4y ago
  Some people just want everything, no compromises.
  - _puk 4y ago
    But isn't this what Firefox containers achieve? My understanding is that cookies etc aren't shared between containers, so I can stay logged in, and not be tracked across websites. If it's achievable, why compromise?
    - noahmasur 4y ago
      Your browser can still be fingerprinted without cookies. The site just needs enough unique information (user agent, timezone, screen size, IP, operating system, country, etc.) to form a trackable identity.
      - jwestbury 4y ago
        > IP This is a surprisingly effective one when combined with other users of your network. A couple of years ago, I started getting Facebook ads for things I'd never looked at, but that I knew my wife had looked at. We don't share any devices, and she doesn't even have a Facebook account. It's pretty troubling how invasive shadow profiles are.
    - hiccuphippo 4y ago
      What I'd like is a Mullvad container in regular Firefox so I can choose what sites to open in it, or rather make it the default and move a site to another container if I want permanent cookies. I use temporary containers now but the extra fingerprinting features appeal to me.
      - SadTrombone 4y ago
        You could look into Mozilla's VPN offering, it does what you want and is powered by Mullvad.
neurostimulant 4y ago
This is inherited from the upstream TOR browser. It's basically designed to evade fingerprinting by making the browser's fingerprint similar across all TOR browser's users. It's indeed very inconvenient so don't use these browsers unless you're seriously care about these stuff.
naillo 4y ago
Obviously you're not the target audience for a privacy focused browser
oefrha 4y ago
Well, I’d say this is largely privacy theater for hobbyists. Like a lot of other hobbies, unreasonable suffering is often part of the fun and creates a sense of belonging. What sets you apart if you’re just browsing like every other mortal? Edit: As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, there are still plenty of identifying bits.
FollowingTheDao 4y ago
Convenience is the wedge that separates you from your privacy.
_0lhw 4y ago
No one wants that, most websites become broken by taking pro-privacy measures. It's about not consenting to tracking. Right now the majority of users are implicitly giving consent to tracking. It seems like a harmless thing to be tracked, but once the likes of haveibeenpwned.com came out and the databases that fuel it, and services that provide search utility to those databases, it should become clear that being tracked across every single website on the internet is probably not what you want. Scenario: You apply for a job, they look up your totally-clean email address, see the email linked to an ip address on some database from a leaky website you applied for a job on, the ip address is linked to a service where you used a certain password which you used on 6 other services, one of which had a database leak of your system fonts, now you can see all the accounts to services to which your system fonts were identically matched. Oh look, you were 13 years old when you joined stack overflow on an abandoned account and you posted some humorous, incorrect solutions that were down-voted to oblivion. But that's ok, they invite you to the job interview and they make a funny remark about your stack overflow answers and then offer you a job. Do you want to work there now that you know they completely invaded your privacy ? And yes, performing such searches is trivial.
- nearbuy 4y ago
  So in this scenario, if only you had used the Mullvad browser then... you wouldn't have have found out this employer snoops on their employees and might have accepted their job offer? You've concocted a scenario where a privacy-focused browser ends up causing you problems.
  - hotpathdev 4y ago
    I'm not advocating for this browser specifically, only encouraging more people to take pro-privacy and online safety measures. It's pointless to say the problem is the employer, or the hacker who released the data, or the programmer who relied on bad algorithms, or the admin who didn't secure the data. One way or another, this data will get leaked, the old hashing and encryption techniques will be broken and there will be people searching through it all. Forget about the government, at least they are beholden to law and maintaining the appearance of adhering to it. Substitute employer for neighbor, girlfriend or internet stalker and you have equally valid scenarios which are even more disturbing in my mind.
weberer 4y ago
Then standard Firefox with "Enhanced Tracking Protection" set to "Strict" would probably be enough for you.
mongol 4y ago
I like the Duck Duck Go browser. It has a "burn" buttton that destroys all cookies except those you opt in to keep.
DrewADesign 4y ago
Have you considered becoming a non-user?
bubersson 4y ago
Unfortunately from now on, the Mullvad Browser is the only browser you can use, ever. So you will be annoyed by this inconvenience a lot.

illiarian 4y ago

So it's Tor Browser, but for clearnet

npteljes 4y ago
Yes, and I like it that they explicitly say so on the page. This kind of transparency and down to earth marketing inspires confidence.
- illiarian 4y ago
  Ah, completely missed it on the page. So I'm just re-iterating :)

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bmacho 4y ago

Why not just disable javascript?

shp0ngle 4y ago

What is more satisfying than needing to enter OTP every time I go to check email. I already do this for work (for security theatre) so I will skip this

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sundarurfriend 4y ago

> > Why is the time is wrong? > > The timezone is spoofed, to combat fingerprinting. The annoying thing about this (assuming it's the same as in Firefox) is that the times displayed in your own local History page are also "wrong" i.e. shown in UTC.