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> I don't understand how Microsoft can cheapen their main OS that much. I think the sad reality is a huge portion of the American population actually likes bei
by pengaru 4y ago
> I don't understand how Microsoft can cheapen their main OS that much.
I think the sad reality is a huge portion of the American population actually likes being fed commercial/branded b.s. Just look how common it is for folks to voluntarily affix things like Monster energy drink logos on their vehicles... The culture has no class, monster trucks dude.
- dan-robertson 4y agoI think you could do a better job of trying to empathise with people who are not like yourself and who do not conform to the norms of your social class.
- jmartin2683 4y agoMonster-drinking, giant truck-driving redneck here for some perspective: We have no class. It’s kind of the brand.
- wffurr 4y agoYou may not have class but you are a member of a class and regardless don't deserve shovelware and ads in your start menu.
- SgtBastard 4y agoDeserve? Perhaps not. But respond favourably to, in sufficient numbers, that it remains profitable for the shovelling class? You betcha.
- javajosh 4y ago"I think you could do a better job of trying to empathise with people who are not like yourself and who do not conform to the norms of your social class." This statement is extremely ironic. You are scolding someone about not empathizing more. Do you see it?
- mattsahr 4y agoI think if you empathized more with the scolder, you would see that they DID empathize with the shovel-eating-class-hater, and realized, via empathy-bond, that person was not empathizing downstream enough. But... I totally empathize with you.
- JohnBooty 4y agoInteresting mental gymnastics. Calling for more empathy is... the same as not having empathy?
- javajosh 4y agoCalling for more empathy has nothing to do with empathy. It has to do with status.
- dan-robertson 4y agoI think the comment is bad because it does not lead to an interesting discussion – ‘that’s just the way such people are’. I think it could have been made in a way which is more curious about why the mentioned group might behave in the way described.
- themadturk 4y agoThat's because we've lived in an advertising-saturated environment our whole lives. TV (where all pre-streaming shows were designed around ad breaks), radio, newspapers, magazines, and finally online. Americans are used to it, there's a certain comfort-level in it. My primary reason for blocking internet ads is that they physically get in the way of reading; the security/performance concerns are genuine but secondary in my quest to get those damn ads out of my way.
- pmarreck 4y agoMy kid likes monster trucks. I live in one of the wealthiest areas of Long Island. Tastes vary; thus the only thing IMHO that is defensibly low-class is something objectively a bad or unethical choice, like dishonesty. You're going to get into hot water ascribing specific tastes to class; I just read the other day that some of the most exclusive residences in Vegas have clientele with bizarrely specific yet very basic food preferences.
- viridian 4y agoI would advise not normalizing the sort of narrative pushed by the person you are replying to by ceding ground with relation to bad behavior. A lack of class, as pengaru uses it, doesn't seem to be a useful concept, and muddies the water of what people mean when talking about class based hierarchies. The reason I would argue it's not a useful concept is that class in this context refers to one's social signaling outputs in a national monoculture that hasn't been the predominate way people in the US have interacted with culture for decades.
- pmarreck 4y agoGreat observation and thank you for making that point