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Something smells off about this. The author pulled an old laptop from under their desk and was able to install windows 11? Not likely in my experience. How did

Something smells off about this. The author pulled an old laptop from under their desk and was able to install windows 11? Not likely in my experience. How did the author even get a windows 11 install since they claim they have not used windows since version 8. Will any win8 laptop even support an upgrade to 11? I doubt it. Why not get linux running on the old laptop. Mint likely installs just fine. I'm not saying win 11 is great and frankly none of the systems I have will even install it as they do not meet the requirements just that I find the set up to be sus.

the__alchemist 4y ago
I think there's some ambiguity re Windows 11 hardware reqs. I was unable to upgrade an older laptop, with it labeled as "not supported" (Older Surface Pro), but I was able to do a clean install from USB.
PaulHoule 4y ago
I'd say though that the complaint about having TikTok preinstalled, plus the trashy tabloid news, plus the endless begging for you to use Teams does ring true and it is something that Microsoft needs pushback against.
pcdoodle 4y ago
you can easily install 11 on any hardware using rufus (gets rid of TPM2 req.) I agree with the article too. Windows is dead.
tpmx 4y ago
> The author pulled an old laptop from under their desk The blog post doesn't say it was old. Did you misread So far, I have only used it a couple of times to debug old software I wrote long ago that needed some fixes ?
- uberman 4y ago
  Sure, my misread of what they said. However they as you say stored it in a drawer under their desk and only used it to debug software written long ago. They also said the last time they used windows was version 8. I think it perfectly reasonable to conclude the laptop ran windows 8. Otherwise if it ran windows 10 the author would have said the last time they used windows it was version 10.
  - tpmx 4y ago
    > They also said the last time they used windows was version 8. No, they say Windows 8 was the last version I used daily.
    - smcin 4y ago
      The OP didn't say it at all clearly, but reading between their lines they had used Win10, but since Win8 had moved to MacBooks and MacOS as their preferred daily platform: > Win8 was the last version I used daily. It was when I moved from web development to mobile development, which wasn't (and still isn't) possible to do without a Mac when targeting iOS. One day I decided it would be worth making the switch as I had developed an aversion to the new Metro UI of Windows [8] anyway. > ...never looked back since. I stopped buying new laptops every few months and got myself a new MacBook every few years instead. >Win11: ... "I already knew from Win10 that some diagnostics settings could no longer be switched off permanently."
jmkni 4y ago
The author never uses the word ‘old’ in regards to the laptop.
- uberman 4y ago
  Technically no, however it was in a drawer under their desk, they only used it to debug software written long ago and they state they have not used windows since version 8.
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viraptor 4y ago
> How did the author even get a windows 11 install From Microsoft? https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11 https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
- uberman 4y ago
  If you were going to download an os to install that you wanted your kid to be able to tinker with and reinstall and you had not used windows in 8 to 10 years why would you download windows 11 rather than ubuntu or Mint?
  - antod 4y ago
    That is the whole point of the article. Based on their old Windows skills and experience (and having no Linux experience?), they thought they knew what they were going to get with a newer Windows install. The article is all about how shocked they were when they didn't get what they were expecting. I suspect they'll be trying out a Linux distro now though...
  - Mike_12345 4y ago
    Windows 11 will run on a Dell laptop from 2015. That is an 8 year old laptop. That OS is used by millions of people. It is loaded with obnoxious advertising and news. Nothing false in this article. There have been countless complaints about this crap forced into Windows 11.
- judge2020 4y ago
  I think their argument is that most laptops from the W8 days don't support W11 mainly because of the processor requirements and check. Although the author could've burned the image to a USB disk with Rufus which has defaults that remove the W11 pre-checks during flash.
fortran77 4y ago
I agree. It smelled funny to me, too.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  Marketing from who? This really isn't apple's style and doesn't much benefit them, and I can't think of any other company that would be motivated.
superchroma 4y ago
I've done it. You need to edit the registry during install and it's all fine.
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the__alchemist 4y ago

I think there's some ambiguity re Windows 11 hardware reqs. I was unable to upgrade an older laptop, with it labeled as "not supported" (Older Surface Pro), but I was able to do a clean install from USB.

PaulHoule 4y ago

I'd say though that the complaint about having TikTok preinstalled, plus the trashy tabloid news, plus the endless begging for you to use Teams does ring true and it is something that Microsoft needs pushback against.

pcdoodle 4y ago

you can easily install 11 on any hardware using rufus (gets rid of TPM2 req.) I agree with the article too. Windows is dead.

tpmx 4y ago

> The author pulled an old laptop from under their desk The blog post doesn't say it was old. Did you misread So far, I have only used it a couple of times to debug old software I wrote long ago that needed some fixes ?

uberman 4y ago
Sure, my misread of what they said. However they as you say stored it in a drawer under their desk and only used it to debug software written long ago. They also said the last time they used windows was version 8. I think it perfectly reasonable to conclude the laptop ran windows 8. Otherwise if it ran windows 10 the author would have said the last time they used windows it was version 10.
- tpmx 4y ago
  > They also said the last time they used windows was version 8. No, they say Windows 8 was the last version I used daily.
  - smcin 4y ago
    The OP didn't say it at all clearly, but reading between their lines they had used Win10, but since Win8 had moved to MacBooks and MacOS as their preferred daily platform: > Win8 was the last version I used daily. It was when I moved from web development to mobile development, which wasn't (and still isn't) possible to do without a Mac when targeting iOS. One day I decided it would be worth making the switch as I had developed an aversion to the new Metro UI of Windows [8] anyway. > ...never looked back since. I stopped buying new laptops every few months and got myself a new MacBook every few years instead. >Win11: ... "I already knew from Win10 that some diagnostics settings could no longer be switched off permanently."

jmkni 4y ago

The author never uses the word ‘old’ in regards to the laptop.

uberman 4y ago
Technically no, however it was in a drawer under their desk, they only used it to debug software written long ago and they state they have not used windows since version 8.
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viraptor 4y ago

> How did the author even get a windows 11 install From Microsoft? https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11 https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

uberman 4y ago
If you were going to download an os to install that you wanted your kid to be able to tinker with and reinstall and you had not used windows in 8 to 10 years why would you download windows 11 rather than ubuntu or Mint?
- antod 4y ago
  That is the whole point of the article. Based on their old Windows skills and experience (and having no Linux experience?), they thought they knew what they were going to get with a newer Windows install. The article is all about how shocked they were when they didn't get what they were expecting. I suspect they'll be trying out a Linux distro now though...
- Mike_12345 4y ago
  Windows 11 will run on a Dell laptop from 2015. That is an 8 year old laptop. That OS is used by millions of people. It is loaded with obnoxious advertising and news. Nothing false in this article. There have been countless complaints about this crap forced into Windows 11.
judge2020 4y ago
I think their argument is that most laptops from the W8 days don't support W11 mainly because of the processor requirements and check. Although the author could've burned the image to a USB disk with Rufus which has defaults that remove the W11 pre-checks during flash.

fortran77 4y ago

I agree. It smelled funny to me, too.

Dylan16807 4y ago
Marketing from who? This really isn't apple's style and doesn't much benefit them, and I can't think of any other company that would be motivated.

superchroma 4y ago

I've done it. You need to edit the registry during install and it's all fine.

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