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The irony of this is that a lot of the sound engineering stuff isn't a thing anymore for recorded music - the producers won. If you mic properly and choose a s
by CuriouslyC 4y ago
The irony of this is that a lot of the sound engineering stuff isn't a thing anymore for recorded music - the producers won. If you mic properly and choose a space with the right acoustics you can achieve almost anything with walkthrough GUIs using a DAW and some plugins.
- PUSH_AX 4y agoMics? Chances are (unless you're a vocalist) you can either DI straight into a plugin or use a VSTi to just midi program a sampled version of your instrument both performed and engineered to a higher standard than you can reach.
- CuriouslyC 4y agoWhile I've certainly done everything in software, there are a lot of genres (such as metal) where micing is a part of the sound. If you listen to metalcore vs a lot of metal, you can hear it.
- PUSH_AX 4y agoI would disagree on that, as a hobbyist metal guitarist myself, software like Neural DSP, Bogren etc has made such strides in amp modelling that you can get the same sounds in the box. There are a number of releases I've heard where you simply cannot tell the difference, arguably nor should you bother trying, they sound fantastic.
- ironman1478 4y agoA lot of amp modeling software allows you to place the mic virtually in different positions because it affects the sound. I think when using a Kemper to profile an amp, it models the microphone + amplifier
- progrus 4y agoThe cabinet and speaker are also modeled, and in some ways those are more important than the amp: https://youtu.be/-eeC1XyZxYs https://youtu.be/-eeC1XyZxYs
- CuriouslyC 4y agoI own a copy of bias fx, but I still feel that the nuances of mic positioning and acoustics can give an organic feel easily, much like how good musicians swing beats in an aesthetic way that beat swing plugins don't quite live up to in most cases.
- noizejoy 4y agoNot everyone has a high opinion of bias fx in comparison to some other modelled amp and cab sims. So that sample size of 1 may not be representative of the current state of the art. Love their GUIs though!
- still_grokking 4y agoNow I'm confused. Isn't the "DAW and some plugins" part actually the core of sound engineering nowadays?
- CuriouslyC 4y agoThey are, but the engineering aspect is greatly diminished, which is why these days in music everybody is a producer and audio engineers are more likely to work events or film/tv.
- noizejoy 4y ago> audio engineers are more likely to work events or film/tv. or in the creation of sample libraries.