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I seriously doubt that the head of cyber security at such a place would ever do any coding. The primary job would be administrative, the needed skill the manag
by sandworm101 4y ago
I seriously doubt that the head of cyber security at such a place would ever do any coding. The primary job would be administrative, the needed skill the management of people. 55k is a joke, but lets not pretend that this position requires l33t hacking skills. This is a job about hiring and firing people, about selecting policy and judging the qualification of prospective contractors. And it's a job about writing reports and presenting them to higher authorities and investigative committees, not the sort of things taught at bootcamps.
- FartyMcFarter 4y agoBut if you never did any coding, you may not understand enough to effectively lead a team of people who do that. For example, how are you going to understand what's going on or resolve technical conflicts? Just outsourcing all the decisions probably makes you much less useful.
- sandworm101 4y agoSuch skills are certainly a bonus, but they would not be a requirement. It is common thinking that every good general should first have been a good footsoldier. The reality is that the vast majority of great generals never were. The most important skills for senior leaders to succeed are rarely similar to those needed to succeed on the front lines of any project.
- Aeolun 4y ago> The reality is that the vast majority of great generals never were. There’s a fuckton of terrible generals that were never foot soldiers. How does that ratio relate to the number of terrible generals that were?
- rwalle 4y agoI have to ask, have you ever been a manager at any level at any company? Are you just imagining all these things?
- sandworm101 4y agoActually, was a manger in the private sector (legal) and am now in the public sector (military). I have seen both sides and have seen managers succeed and fail in both transitions.
- roundandround 4y agoThe people this manager leads will also not be coders. Governments make virtually no software and any of that would be in a group that is still not connected to the group overseeing overall security. If he has a windows machine he is familiar with what it does on Tuesdays.. From there its learning about CVEs, etc..
- dukeyukey 4y agoCan't talk about this department specifically, but the UK government does have a tech department (GDS, Government Digital Service), and they're actually really good, especially in accessibility.
- flixing 4y agoSo not true
- camdenreslink 4y agoHead of cyber security at a private company would be somebody with a career of hands-on security work, that has moved up into management. This person would absolutely know how to do the job of their reports. Why should the government be any different?
- sandworm101 4y agoBecause this isnt a private company. This person first needs the skills to integrate and exist within a government structure. Management of public employees within a government is very different than at will employees within a private organization. Working under politically appointed or elected adminstrators is also very different than working for a CEO.