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ISRO successfully conducts landing experiment of the Reusable Launch Vehicle
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- Zurrrrr 4y ago[flagged]
- anshumankmr 4y agoThis comment comes off like this cartoon: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/media/images/78030000/jpg/_78030103_78030100.jpg https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/media/images/78030000/jpg... There is no reason India can't do both.
- Zurrrrr 4y ago[flagged]
- db1234 4y agoIndia is doing both and more. You have no idea what you are talking about.
- Zurrrrr 4y agoI think you replied to the wrong comment. I specifically referenced the rape endemic, and I said the way it is being handled is deplorable and woefully inadequate. And it is.
- shubhamkrm 4y agoLooks like it’s being handled better than many Western countries: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_United_States#/media/File%3AA_country_comparison_of_rape_and_sexual_assault_rate_trends%2C_per_100000_people%2C_2003_-_2011%2C_United_Nations.png https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_United_States#/m...
- manojlds 4y agoWhat's US doing about the gun culture? Your roundabouts are ridiculous.
- krishvs 4y agoOk.....so you expect the scientists who are working on space systems to better put their efforts to solve a (hypothetical) rape culture? How do you think their skillsets translate into solving rape culture?
- bakul 4y agohow would the “rape culture” be influenced by india stopping its space program? This is like saying the US should stop spending money on lots of things until the gun violence problem is solved.
- manojlds 4y agoWhy are there homeless in the US while US is trying to create "homes" in space.
- unmole 4y ago> What comes to mind, just one big thing, is the rape culture. T Could it be that you are just plain ignorant?
- achow 4y agoRape/Population ranking [1]: USA 27.3 India 1.8 Time to stop all NASA programs! [1] https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate#2010 https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-r...
- pm90 4y agoIndia is a vast country with the soon to be largest population in the world. There are quite enough people to be doing both.
- shash 4y agoProbably already is, apparently... So there's enough people, enough money (sixth largest economy) and enough reason to do it, too.
- samuraijack 4y agoIt's baffling to me how westerners don't realize that you could solve two different problems in parallel. When America started its space program, were all of its problems solved? In fact, are all of America's problems solved now?
- san_dimitri 4y agoAgree. In 1969 while they were busy landing folks in moon, the civil rights movement and black panthers were fighting for equality and justice. My 2 cents.
- vishnugupta 4y agoThis kind of comment is the first one to show up like clockwork whenever a HN story comes up which doesn’t mention India and poor/corruption/hungry/religion in the same sentence.
- vineethkm 4y agoTrue! I wonder if they do realise gun culture in USA, is worse than any of the so-called third world nations. India is the sixth largest economy of the world.
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- sirius87 4y agoHaving a space program and specifically a launch vehicle that puts satellites in orbit for other countries brings in foreign exchange revenue. Having a reusable launch vehicle is an improvement on capabilities for competitive pricing. What's not to like here? Jul 2022: "ISRO earns US$ 279 mn in foreign exchange" https://indbiz.gov.in/isro-earns-us-279-mn-in-foreign-exchange/ https://indbiz.gov.in/isro-earns-us-279-mn-in-foreign-exchan...
- philonoist 4y agoI will not tolerate what @Zurrrrr writes "It's baffling to me that India is putting so much money into being part of the next space race, when they still have such vast and prominent problems on the ground. You could say that for many countries, but there is a difference in degree IMO." Said every racist and ignorant ever. You think we don't have people who make cost benefit analysis before investing in such projects? We don't have parliament and budget sessions? The payloads we deploy immensely help us socially and technologically advance. Do you know that? Ed tech itself got eGyanKosh, Swayam, NPTEL, private teachings on govt. platforms so cheap that by next year about a quarter million adults will be uplifted out of poverty. That funding is given to satellites launched by ISRO. Did you know that? Had it not been for ISRO, we wouldn't have had larger outreach of instant cash transfers and payments. Did you know that? Had it not been for ISRO we wouldn't be able to fight societal superstitions or bring in public health education drives let alone dumb down power play of society by caste and gender. Do you know that? That also includes targeted courses for farmers about endemic genetic problems, weather, pests to Artists about film-making. Did you know that? Even the money we get to deploy other western country's payloads makes people lift out of poverties in a single digit of percentage of populations in a city for every year! Do you know that? But no. A random pompous clueless stranger on the internet comes to an sweet intelligent discussion site and declares he is baffled and India should now hold a inter-ministerial meeting to stop space projects. These people have been everywhere from NYTIMES cartoonists to HN unfortunately. I don't understand how should one ban from this site either. You are not contributing to the intended discussion of this site relating to the link posted, but yourself. You just want to throw around how baffled you are and sleep back in your mother's basement.
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- jimsimmons 4y agoUS wants to go back to the moon to put the first woman and PoC on it lol. Talk about spending billions of dollars for a token image. Somehow when Murica does it we should all cheer for it as a great ray of hope for all humanity. Anyone else, there's a long line of "umm, actually..." guys. They just can't accept that a non communist, democratic country can compete with them
- actuator 4y agoThis is a technology demonstrator so it makes sense to start with just a drop but looking at the size of the launch vehicle and the parameters tested here, seems like the progress is coming on slow as the article mentions this was first tested in 2016. I am not very familiar with rockets, so this might be out of ignorance but wouldn't the plane like characteristics of this TD make it hard to use for actual launch rockets as they travel quite a bit up and having the winged body might add extra overhead compared to a cylindrical stage.
- mayama 4y agoWinged body is supposed to be second stage, sitting vertically on the rocket which lifts the whole rocket. Winged body cross section is almost circular that should match the lifting rocket, reducing the drag considerably. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_Flight_Experiment#/media/File:Launch_of_RLV-TD_HEX01_from_First_Launch_Pad_of_Satish_Dhawan_Space_Centre,_Sriharikota_(SDSC_SHAR)_04.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_Flight_Experiment#/... This winged RLV, vertical landing launchers etc. are research programs that are generally under funded low priority programs. With the launch of India's human spaceflight program, RLV went even further down or priority list. I don't expect anything to come out of this in this decade, until after HSP program launches.
- actuator 4y agoAh, that makes more sense. > I don't expect anything to come out of this in this decade, until after HSP program launches. From a commercial perspective, wouldn't putting more money into heavy launch vehicles and reusability make more sense? Russia's space business will take a hit with the sanctions and that leaves the market open for a price competitive provider other than SpaceX?
- unmole 4y ago> Russia's space business will take a hit with the sanctions and that leaves the market open for a price competitive provider other than SpaceX? Surely, that also leaves the market open for an alternative to SpaceX for putting people into space? But yes, reusable launch vehicles should be a high priority.
- sidcool 4y agoCongrats ISRO. There will be naysayers. Ignore them and keep going.
- db1234 4y agoWhy India should continue to invest in space technology? Odisha cyclone in 1999: 10,000 dead. Odisha cyclone of similar intensity in 2019: < 50 dead because ISRO was better equipped to track the cyclone path giving enough time for Govt to evacuate people to safety. Ignore the ignorant including "liberal", "progressive" publications like NYT which publish racist cartoons on Indian space program.
- elkos 4y agoAnd ISRO has a very very competitive polar low earth orbit commercial ride-sharing program.
- galuggus 4y agoCould you link an example of this kind of cartoon? edit: here's a link https://archive.is/g0msl https://archive.is/g0msl Shocking that the NYT published something like this
- sumedh 4y agoWhat is shocking/offensive about that?
- unmole 4y agoIn response to a successful mission to Mars, the cartoonist decided to reach for a lazy stereotype of a farmer dragging his cow along.
- ergonaught 4y agoThe entire cartoon uses exaggerated stereotypes to make a point. If you think the depiction of the snobbish elite is okay, you're just falling into the "it's only racism if I don't like it" nonsense.
- unmole 4y agoI don't think the cartoon is racist or offensive. I was trying to explain why some people found it distasteful. And stereotyping someone as elite is surely not the same thing as stereotyping someone as poor?
- kkm 4y agoI can also highly recommend reading: Touching Lives: The Little Known Triumphs of the Indian Space Programme, by SK Das (2007). Excerpt: Touching Lives is not merely a chronicle of the community outreach of the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO). It is the story of journeys to far corners of India meeting people whose lives have been transformed by technology. More books about ISRO: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33814.0 https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33814.0
- Zurrrrr 4y agoThank you. I'm going to add that book to my list, it sounds interesting.
- andai 4y agoExploratory spaceflight puts scientific ideas, scientific thinking, and scientific vocabulary in the public eye. It elevates the general level of intellectual inquiry. The idea that we've now understood something never grasped by anyone who ever lived before—that exhilaration, especially intense for the scientists involved, but perceptible to nearly everyone—propagates through the society, bounces off walls, and comes back at us. It encourages us to address problems in other fields that have also never before been solved. It increases the general sense of optimism in the society. It gives currency to critical thinking of the sort urgently needed if we are to solve hitherto intractable social issues. It helps stimulate a new generation of scientists. The more science in the media-especially if methods are described, as well as conclusions and implications-the healthier, I believe, the society is. People everywhere hunger to understand. Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot
- linux_devil 4y agoCongratulations , and I am sure this is just a beginning . What I find even more interesting is "According to ISRO the configuration of RLV-TD is similar to that of an aircraft and combines the complexity of both launch vehicles and aircraft.". Are there any challenges in going ahead with aircraft like landing which is so much different from Space-X landing of reusable rockets
- perryizgr8 4y agoAs an Indian, I'm proud of what ISRO does. With the constraints given to them, (financial, political, social) it's a marvel they're still able to deliver results as often as they do. As an Indian taxpayer I'm frustrated that I effectively cannot control how my money is used. The central government spent $2 B on the Central Vista project, which is a wholly unnecessary construction project for our 550 MPs to feel better about themselves. Incidentally, this is the same as the entire annual budget allocated to ISRO, which benefits hundreds of millions of Indians and no doubt has an effect of all of us. I would much rather they double ISROs budget and let MPs work in the perfectly adequate building they already had.
- alephnerd 4y agoUnrelated to ISRO's honestly solid step in aerospace but to all the commentators on this thread I'm Desi American and honestly, HN commentators from both India and the US need to stop being little bitches. It's made HN go to shit. Boomer American HN commentators - stop being so god damn racist about South Asians. Caste and poverty doesn't define us. Millennial+Uncle Indian HN commentators - stop using the "school shooting" trope and ultranationalism. Y'all are basically acting like Wumao. Bring on the downvotes. I'm so sick of all the bullshit on this site
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- pks016 4y agoCongratulations! Listen to Mission ISRO in Spotify, if you are interested in India's space journey.
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- cuteboy19 4y agoTheir naming scheme is so austere. PSLV RLV etc. Just straight up descriptions of the objects, nothing more