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I could. I have zero attachment to places. But it would be though on my wife and daughter (who both are Swedes, I'm the only immigrant) And not everyone is equ

I could. I have zero attachment to places. But it would be though on my wife and daughter (who both are Swedes, I'm the only immigrant) And not everyone is equally poor. Sweden has one of the highest number of Billionaires per capita in Europe. In fact wealth inequality (not income inequality) is almost as high as russia. Source: https://medium.com/@samo.burja/the-family-that-finances-sweden-8441c8a6dc5a https://medium.com/@samo.burja/the-family-that-finances-swed...

imwithstoopid 4y ago
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- jdmoreira 4y ago
  To be fair there are many many great things about Sweden. It just so happens that wealth mobility is not one of them.
- amrocha 4y ago
  Nothing mythological about Canadian healthcare. It's strictly better than the US's
  - dangwhy 4y ago
    better in terms of costs and access, worse in terms of quality and wait times.
    - amrocha 4y ago
      You can't claim "wait times" as a positive of letting a bunch of people die or go bankrupt Quality is just not true
      - dangwhy 4y ago
        > You can't claim "wait times" as a positive of letting a bunch of people die or go bankrupt i already covered that under 'access' . If you have access then USA has much lower wait times. Its postive to the people who have access. Your implication that wait times are just natural consequence of more access is also not right. "Commonwealth Fund ranked Canada last among 11 countries surveyed on wait times for specialist care. the Commonwealth Fund’s survey results show that other universal health care systems (eg, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Australia, and France) have much shorter wait times than Canada does." "Canada has 35% fewer acute care beds and per capita than the United States ... " > Quality is just not true If you want the most cutting edge medical care then USA is the no 1 destination for people all over the world. "The United States ranks 4th in the World Index of Healthcare Innovation, with an overall score of 54.96, behind only Switzerland, Germany, and the Netherlands. Americans are usually the first to gain access to major new medical advances, advances often discovered at American universities and developed by American companies. As a result, the U.S. ranked first for both Choice (57.65) and Science & Technology (75.14)." https://freopp.org/united-states-health-system-profile-4-in-the-world-index-of-healthcare-innovation-b593ba15a96 https://freopp.org/united-states-health-system-profile-4-in-...
        speakfreely 4y ago
        > If you want the most cutting edge medical care then USA is the no 1 destination for people all over the world. That's a bit like saying "you can find the cleanest air in the world in California". In remote locations in the desert or wilderness that's plausibly possible, but the vast majority of people live in cities with substantial air pollution. Likewise, most Americans do not have access to cutting edge medical treatments and endure what I would generously call apathetic care from their medical providers. What is available to a celebrity or Saudi prince will never be available to you or any other American you ever meet.
        jryle70 4y ago
        > Most Americans ... endure what I would generously call apathetic care from their medical providers. I call BS with "most Americans" or "apathetic care". Feel free if you want to share your anecdote. My personal experience and those I know though, is that the care is top notch. Cutting edge treatment? well I don't know, I was lucky not needing any of that. It's also probably more expensive compared to other countries. However our of pocket pay is very reasonable, and the level of care is excellent.
  - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
    Once you get to the top of the waiting list.
    - amrocha 4y ago
      I don't even know what you're trying to say. The US system is to let poor people die and medium class people go bankrupt. There is no argument you can make that will redeem that. Yes, Canada's healthcare system has problems, but it's not fundamentally flawed.

imwithstoopid 4y ago

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jdmoreira 4y ago
To be fair there are many many great things about Sweden. It just so happens that wealth mobility is not one of them.
amrocha 4y ago
Nothing mythological about Canadian healthcare. It's strictly better than the US's
- dangwhy 4y ago
  better in terms of costs and access, worse in terms of quality and wait times.
  - amrocha 4y ago
    You can't claim "wait times" as a positive of letting a bunch of people die or go bankrupt Quality is just not true
    - dangwhy 4y ago
      > You can't claim "wait times" as a positive of letting a bunch of people die or go bankrupt i already covered that under 'access' . If you have access then USA has much lower wait times. Its postive to the people who have access. Your implication that wait times are just natural consequence of more access is also not right. "Commonwealth Fund ranked Canada last among 11 countries surveyed on wait times for specialist care. the Commonwealth Fund’s survey results show that other universal health care systems (eg, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Australia, and France) have much shorter wait times than Canada does." "Canada has 35% fewer acute care beds and per capita than the United States ... " > Quality is just not true If you want the most cutting edge medical care then USA is the no 1 destination for people all over the world. "The United States ranks 4th in the World Index of Healthcare Innovation, with an overall score of 54.96, behind only Switzerland, Germany, and the Netherlands. Americans are usually the first to gain access to major new medical advances, advances often discovered at American universities and developed by American companies. As a result, the U.S. ranked first for both Choice (57.65) and Science & Technology (75.14)." https://freopp.org/united-states-health-system-profile-4-in-the-world-index-of-healthcare-innovation-b593ba15a96 https://freopp.org/united-states-health-system-profile-4-in-...
      - speakfreely 4y ago
        > If you want the most cutting edge medical care then USA is the no 1 destination for people all over the world. That's a bit like saying "you can find the cleanest air in the world in California". In remote locations in the desert or wilderness that's plausibly possible, but the vast majority of people live in cities with substantial air pollution. Likewise, most Americans do not have access to cutting edge medical treatments and endure what I would generously call apathetic care from their medical providers. What is available to a celebrity or Saudi prince will never be available to you or any other American you ever meet.
        jryle70 4y ago
        > Most Americans ... endure what I would generously call apathetic care from their medical providers. I call BS with "most Americans" or "apathetic care". Feel free if you want to share your anecdote. My personal experience and those I know though, is that the care is top notch. Cutting edge treatment? well I don't know, I was lucky not needing any of that. It's also probably more expensive compared to other countries. However our of pocket pay is very reasonable, and the level of care is excellent.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  Once you get to the top of the waiting list.
  - amrocha 4y ago
    I don't even know what you're trying to say. The US system is to let poor people die and medium class people go bankrupt. There is no argument you can make that will redeem that. Yes, Canada's healthcare system has problems, but it's not fundamentally flawed.