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> - No hard requirement for a phone number Only if you pay > - Open Source clients. Mautrix/WhatsApp > - Telegram's track record Which is? > WhatsApp is a

• NayamAmarshe 4y ago
  > Mautrix/WhatsApp I'm sorry, but that's not a good example. It doesn't even count as a legitimate client. > Which is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_Telegram_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_Telegram_in_Russia https://hongkongfp.com/2020/07/05/exclusive-telegram-to-temporarily-refuse-data-requests-from-hong-kong-courts-amid-security-law-terrorism-row/ https://hongkongfp.com/2020/07/05/exclusive-telegram-to-temp... https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3yavb/russia-blocks-telegram https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3yavb/russia-blocks-telegra... https://sensortower.com/blog/hong-kong-protests-app-downloads https://sensortower.com/blog/hong-kong-protests-app-download... > With Telegram you have a guarantee that it is not E2EE in group chats and single chats if you don't opt into a way worse UX/features. You're saying this as if you have a guarantee that WhatsApp's E2EE is 100% correct. At least with Telegram, I know what data the app is collecting, where it's going and how it's being stored on the device. > True for Whatsapp as well, it's funded by business accounts and perhaps other parts of facebook Assumption again.
  • tcfhgj 4y ago
    > I'm sorry, but that's not a good example. It doesn't even count as a legitimate client. why not? After all the client uses the multi-device API like the official client does > You're saying this as if you have a guarantee that WhatsApp's E2EE is 100% correct. I am not saying it like that. I am explicitly saying that with Telegram you have the guarantee that it is not E2EE, while there at least exist the possibility of WhatsApp being E2EE. > Assumption again. An observation, not assumption. WhatsApp wants to see money for business accounts: https://business.whatsapp.com/products/platform-pricing https://business.whatsapp.com/products/platform-pricing